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Reply #25 on: May 30, 2007, 02:29:26 pm
I decided (under the advice of ID) that we need to talk about Eddie instead.  :biggrin:
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Reply #26 on: May 30, 2007, 02:32:04 pm
Problem with trading for Kobe is his $17 million/year and talent.

Not many teams can work out a deal that is worth it for the Lakers.  The most talked about it a package of Deng, Gordon and Wallace to the Lakers.

I think some deal with Seattle could happen, but I would think the Lakers want him in the east if they do trade him.
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Reply #27 on: May 30, 2007, 02:32:35 pm
Why do we have 5 million damn Kobe threads?
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Reply #28 on: May 30, 2007, 02:33:14 pm
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Reply #29 on: May 30, 2007, 02:35:11 pm
MJ said he would spend as much money as he had to in order to win. If we somehow magically end up with Kobe, I will become a huge Bobcats fan, more than I already am.


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Reply #30 on: May 30, 2007, 02:38:48 pm
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He is a whiny, bitchy, selfish, pompus, arrogant, raping, MJ wanna be.


You would be whiny, bitchy, and selfish too if the only players you had around you were Andrew Bynum, Luke Walton, and Smush Parker. And how is a MJ wanna be a bad thing?


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Reply #31 on: May 30, 2007, 02:50:03 pm
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You would be whiny, bitchy, and selfish too if the only players you had around you were Andrew Bynum, Luke Walton, and Smush Parker. And how is a MJ wanna be a bad thing?



The difference between Kobe and lets say Lebron James (a super star player with a somewhat abysmal supporting cast) is the relationship and trust the star has with his teammates.

Kobe doesn't trust his teammates and they lose confidence.  Lebron shows so much faith in his teammates that it makes them better.  That is why it seems like the Cavs supprting cast is better than the Lakers, it all falls on the superstar.
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Reply #32 on: May 30, 2007, 02:57:20 pm
or "we pwn ourselves with Kobe"
 
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Reply #33 on: May 30, 2007, 03:25:45 pm
Obviously I do not like the NBA and Kobe is a prime reason. This city is still on the fence about the NBA after shinn and and a decent but unspectacular start. Kobe will make the team exciting but he will bring that TO/Barry Bonds poison with him that makes those three the unholy triumverate of self-worship. The only reason LA put up with him is he brought three rings to the city. Otherwise he is just like his baseball and football counterparts, extremely talented but not worth the overall eroding of your franchise.


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Reply #34 on: May 30, 2007, 04:20:57 pm
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The difference between Kobe and lets say Lebron James (a super star player with a somewhat abysmal supporting cast) is the relationship and trust the star has with his teammates.
 
Kobe doesn't trust his teammates and they lose confidence. Lebron shows so much faith in his teammates that it makes them better. That is why it seems like the Cavs supprting cast is better than the Lakers, it all falls on the superstar.

EXCELLENT point.  This is why Kobe will never win another championship.  He cant get along with other star players, and he doesnt make role players better (like Lebron does).  He is selfish, and just wants the spotlight on him.
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Reply #35 on: May 30, 2007, 06:39:06 pm
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The difference between Kobe and lets say Lebron James (a super star player with a somewhat abysmal supporting cast) is the relationship and trust the star has with his teammates.

Kobe doesn't trust his teammates and they lose confidence.  Lebron shows so much faith in his teammates that it makes them better.  That is why it seems like the Cavs supprting cast is better than the Lakers, it all falls on the superstar.

I'm sure the Cavs supporting cast also looks better while it's playing the Celtics, Hawks, Bucks, and the rest of the trash that the Eastern Conference has to offer.  I could win 40 games with kids from the special olympics basketball team in the East.

I don't like Kobe's personal choices (rape charges, arrogance, it's all been mentioned), but the guy can play and is a top 3 player in the game at the moment, his presence would alone give us 10 more wins in a season if not 20.  Remember, the Bobcats severely lack a player who can finish games.


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Reply #36 on: May 30, 2007, 07:19:17 pm
i dont think that kobes arrival will affect the attendance at all. he will put new fans in the seats, but in my opinion will take away fans that have been coming the past 3 or 4 years. i say the bobcats continue to develop young players and establish themselves in a very weak eastern conference. the bobcats are 2-3 years away from being in the bulls position. and then they can go and pick up a decent free agent; such as a ben wallace. be patient bobcats fans, their time will come, its only a matter of time.


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Reply #37 on: May 30, 2007, 07:27:18 pm
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i dont think that kobes arrival will affect the attendance at all. he will put new fans in the seats, but in my opinion will take away fans that have been coming the past 3 or 4 years. i say the bobcats continue to develop young players and establish themselves in a very weak eastern conference. the bobcats are 2-3 years away from being in the bulls position. and then they can go and pick up a decent free agent; such as a ben wallace. be patient bobcats fans, their time will come, its only a matter of time.

were you at the lakers game vs. the bobcats?  it was the only game that came close to selling out the entire season.

let's face the facts people come to see kobe play.  you might not like him as a player or as a person but you can respect the fact that he is a good ball player and he really wants to win.  Easy as that.


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Reply #38 on: May 30, 2007, 08:00:40 pm
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Jackson said the strain between him and Bryant led him to hire a therapist to consult with during the season, according to the Los Angeles Times, which printed excerpts from the magazine article in its Tuesday edition.

Jackson wrote he became so frustrated with Bryant that he told general manager Mitch Kupchak in January: ``I won't coach this team next year if he is still here. He won't listen to anyone. I've had it with this kid.''

Bryant was aware of Jackson's ultimatum.

Jackson wrote that Bryant was angry that O'Neal received allowances from the Lakers organization, but that ``nobody this year, or in any year I've coached, has received more 'allowances' than Kobe Bryant.''

Among those allowances was the Lakers organization's partial payment for the private jets Bryant took to Colorado for the hearings in his rape case.

Bryant complained about the kind of plane he was given to fly to Colorado, Jackson wrote, adding ``He should feel fortunate that he's not footing the bill himself.''

Bryant told Jackson that O'Neal's presence on the team would affect his decision to stay with the Lakers, adding, ``I'm tired of being a sidekick,'' Jackson wrote.

Jackson said he had run-ins with O'Neal as well but that coaching him was ``an experience I will cherish forever.''


I remember the whole thing with Kobe bitching and moaning that the kind of private plane he used for his court appearances was not to his liking.  At the time, Kobe was facing serious jail time for the sexual assault case.  

Needless to say, I'm not rushing out to buy Kobe Bryant jerseys any time soon.
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Reply #39 on: May 30, 2007, 09:03:49 pm
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were you at the lakers game vs. the bobcats?  it was the only game that came close to selling out the entire season.

let's face the facts people come to see kobe play.  you might not like him as a player or as a person but you can respect the fact that he is a good ball player and he really wants to win.  Easy as that.

exactly, dax.    and let's add barry bonds, michael vick, the doping cyclists, the east german women swimmers who carried all the gold away, etcetcetc        GOOOOO...... ALL YOU WINNERS!!!!!!
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Reply #40 on: May 30, 2007, 10:05:22 pm
Quote from: the daxified one;240718
were you at the lakers game vs. the bobcats?  it was the only game that came close to selling out the entire season.

let's face the facts people come to see kobe play.  you might not like him as a player or as a person but you can respect the fact that he is a good ball player and he really wants to win.  Easy as that.

and so does huggy-bear really wants to win!    so let's all of us get behind HuggyThug!   'you might not like him...as a person but you can respect the fact that he...really(really) wants to win.'    
post it here......perhaps a new poll???????
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Reply #41 on: May 30, 2007, 11:05:26 pm
Quote from: the daxified one;240718
were you at the lakers game vs. the bobcats? it was the only game that came close to selling out the entire season.
 
let's face the facts people come to see kobe play. you might not like him as a player or as a person but you can respect the fact that he is a good ball player and he really wants to win. Easy as that.

 
if im not mistaken the heat sold out - as well as the cavs game
 
more importantly, I do not want to see him here - as of now its my understanding that we are projected to be a relatively good team in the next few years, and we are playoff bound. We'r growing, we'r getting young tallent with high hopes and expectations, and those players are bringing in their own fan base (felton, morrison, etc.) I think that Kobe is a risk, just like taking TO on the panthers squad would be...
 
So i want to see him end up at in the eastern conference... the bulls imparticular. That would make the bulls an amazing team, strengthen the east a little bit, but more importantly bring another team that would sell out - sure the lakers game wouldnt sell out next year, but we play the bulls more often than the lakers because they'r in our conference. Basically i just wnat him to end up in the east so that we play him more, to bring out some fans...
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Reply #42 on: May 30, 2007, 11:23:36 pm
kobe bryant is going to end up in new york playing for the knicks. hes already said that he loves playing in the garden and new york has the kind of money (and stupidity) to sign him to a 180 million dollar contract. lets face it, the east is a very weak conference, the bobcats don't need kobe as much as everyone thinks they do. they have great young talent and will end up in the playoffs in the next 2-3 years. this is a basketball city, people will come to watch kobe or no kobe. and with people like wade, shaq, lebron, and arenas there will be a good amount of sell outs this year i believe.


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Reply #43 on: May 31, 2007, 01:45:01 am
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Reply #44 on: May 31, 2007, 11:31:22 am
send him to colorado
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Reply #45 on: December 13, 2007, 09:06:57 am
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or "we pwn ourselves with Kobe"
 

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Reply #46 on: December 13, 2007, 03:31:27 pm
LoL forgot all about the NNN Kobe Meltdown of 07


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Reply #47 on: June 07, 2008, 08:25:10 am
A little over a year ago Kobe madness struck NNN.  What a day....
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Reply #48 on: June 07, 2008, 08:51:34 am
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A little over a year ago Kobe madness struck NNN. What a day....

 
please explain


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Reply #49 on: June 07, 2008, 09:08:00 am


 

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