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on: October 01, 2010, 10:45:25 am
Does anybody understand Lebron's recent comments?  He feels the feedback he's received from his signing with the Miami Heat is racist.

I think Normmm was probably right all along, we'll be really good next year.


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Reply #1 on: October 01, 2010, 10:47:30 am
Does anybody understand Lebron's recent comments?  He feels the feedback he's received from his signing with the Miami Heat is racist.

What he gets for having high school friends as his manager/management team. 


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Reply #2 on: October 01, 2010, 10:48:35 am
Pretty sure plenty of african americans in Cleveland don't give 2 sh*ts about him anymore.


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Reply #3 on: October 01, 2010, 10:50:46 am
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Reply #4 on: October 01, 2010, 10:57:04 am
Last I checked, being a narcissistic asshole had zero to do with the color of your skin.


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Reply #5 on: October 01, 2010, 11:31:09 am

What he gets for having high school friends as his manager/management team.

Yep.  Dude needs to seriously hire a legit PR team and ditch his high school boys.
 
Normally this type of fall from grace is reserved for rapists, murders, and dog killers.  Its rare that such a beloved athlete falls this hard on his face with no scandal at all.


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Reply #6 on: October 01, 2010, 11:34:03 am
Pretty sure plenty of african americans in Cleveland don't give 2 sh*ts about him anymore.

Ha!  Yes.  And I believe Magic Johnson, Reggie Miller and Charles Barkley also criticized him for leaving too.

I think Normmm was probably right all along, we'll be really good next year.


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Reply #7 on: October 01, 2010, 11:38:07 am
I did hear Micheal Wilbon say that there is a general split among races about how it was perceived.  Similar to the OJ Simpson verdict.  The black community, in general, had less of a problem with how it was handled.  I do find that interesting.  He explained that they saw it more as the player controlling his destiny (sticking it to the man), rather than an owner randomly moving a player around as he pleases. 

I think Normmm was probably right all along, we'll be really good next year.


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Reply #8 on: October 01, 2010, 11:43:12 am
I did hear Micheal Wilbon say that there is a general split among races about how it was perceived.  Similar to the OJ Simpson verdict.  The black community, in general, had less of a problem with how it was handled.  I do find that interesting.  He explained that they saw it more as the player controlling his destiny (sticking it to the man), rather than an owner randomly moving a player around as he pleases.

That's how I saw it.  Hell, he's cemented himself as my favorite NBA player of all time.


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Reply #9 on: October 01, 2010, 11:46:46 am


That's how I saw it.  Hell, he's cemented himself as my favorite NBA player of all time.

I don't think most people (outside of the state of Ohio anyway) had any problem with him controlling his own "destiny".  Free agency happens every year with players leaving their current team and moving to another one.  No one says 2 things about that.  Superstar athletes always control their own destiny.
 
The obvious problem was the way it was handled.  Had Lebron just come out in a presser and stated that he was going to Miami then the backlash would have been cut in half.


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Reply #10 on: October 01, 2010, 11:52:12 am
He donated 3 million dollars to charity that was raised by that hour long special. 

I don't care either way.  I thought it was awesome.


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Reply #11 on: October 01, 2010, 12:14:01 pm
There are so many white guys that are hated due to contract issues or switching teams, the list is too long for internet bandwidth to handle.

Clemmens is numero uno. 
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Reply #12 on: October 01, 2010, 12:14:47 pm
I heard his race comments were geared toward the fact that most NBA players are black, however, most front office employees are white or something to that effect. Someone replied by saying this makes black players feel like pawns or tools for the white man to get rich.

I think the race card is abused, and this is a blaring example because obviously NBA players make millions of dollars. If you are good, you will get market value for your skills! Sheesh.
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Reply #13 on: October 01, 2010, 12:18:59 pm
Also, the obvious response is that entirely too much crap is labeled as racism, especially by those who have a hightened opportunity to make use of such a claim.

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Reply #14 on: October 01, 2010, 12:21:40 pm
I heard his race comments were geared toward the fact that most NBA players are black, however, most front office employees are white or something to that effect. Someone replied by saying this makes black players feel like pawns or tools for the white man to get rich.

I think the race card is abused, and this is a blaring example because obviously NBA players make millions of dollars. If you are good, you will get market value for your skills! Sheesh.

Ironically, the lone black owner billionaire paid way LESS than most white owners in the NBA
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Reply #15 on: October 01, 2010, 12:22:54 pm
I can see it being about race, just because non-Clevelanders are complaining.  Why would a non-Clevelander give a sh*t?  You don't live in that hell hole.  Who wouldn't choose Miami over Cleveland?
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Reply #16 on: October 01, 2010, 12:24:30 pm
I can see it being about race, just because non-Clevelanders are complaining.  Why would a non-Clevelander give a sh*t?  You don't live in that hell hole.  Who wouldn't choose Miami over Cleveland?

Haha, yeah, I don't know why people give a s***.  I wouldn't stay in Cleveland over Miami either. 


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Reply #17 on: October 01, 2010, 12:26:56 pm
I can see it being about race, just because non-Clevelanders are complaining.  Why would a non-Clevelander give a sh*t?  You don't live in that hell hole.  Who wouldn't choose Miami over Cleveland?

Haha, yeah, I don't know why people give a s***.
Because he did a 1 hour special about it on ESPN.

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Reply #18 on: October 01, 2010, 12:27:35 pm
I can see it being about race, just because non-Clevelanders are complaining.  Why would a non-Clevelander give a sh*t?  You don't live in that hell hole.  Who wouldn't choose Miami over Cleveland?

Haha, yeah, I don't know why people give a s***.
Because he did a 1 hour special on it on ESPN.

So?


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Reply #19 on: October 01, 2010, 12:29:46 pm

So?

It was a douchebag move.  People get tired of douchebags.  Thats pretty much the long and short of it.
 
 


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Reply #20 on: October 01, 2010, 12:34:07 pm
I can see it being about race, just because non-Clevelanders are complaining.  Why would a non-Clevelander give a sh*t?  You don't live in that hell hole.  Who wouldn't choose Miami over Cleveland?

Haha, yeah, I don't know why people give a s***.
Because he did a 1 hour special about it on ESPN.

So?
Well there ya go. Not sure I can make that one anymore clear, but I guess this explains why you're on the side you're on.

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Reply #21 on: October 01, 2010, 12:34:44 pm

So?

It was a douchebag move.  People get tired of douchebags.  Thats pretty much the long and short of it.

Yeah, see, I just thought it was funny.  I don't know how it was a douchebag move.  I didn't watch it.  It didn't affect me in anyway.  But I do know he is a showman, and always has been.  He makes basketball games an event, I think it's pretty awesome.  That's not to say I don't appreciate people like Durant also, but LeBron's biggest crime is having fun. 


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Reply #22 on: October 01, 2010, 12:37:29 pm
It was douchebag move. However, donating $3 million to kids charities was not. At least Lebron raped or murdered anyone here folks.  He made a career move for him. Miami > Cleveland, even when it's getting hit by a hurricane.


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Reply #23 on: October 01, 2010, 12:40:48 pm
It was douchebag move. However, donating $3 million to kids charities was not. At least Lebron raped or murdered anyone here folks.  He made a career move for him. Miami > Cleveland, even when it's getting hit by a hurricane.

See, I think running up millions of dollars in gambling debts and not paying is a douchebag move.  I think raping a chick is a douchebag move.  I think LeBron is the basketball equivalent of Chad OchoCinco.  He's just out there having fun, but people wanna piss on his parade.  And, I think shitting on cleveland after the way the owner treated him, and his teammates, is totally justified. 


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Reply #24 on: October 01, 2010, 12:41:56 pm
But I do know he is a showman, and always has been.  He makes basketball games an event, I think it's pretty awesome.  That's not to say I don't appreciate people like Durant also, but LeBron's biggest crime is having fun.
Yea. I feel this is unrelated to "Lebrongate," but I think all that kind of stuff (about being a showman)  is lame. Just get out there and do work, son. Like I've always thought the dust throwing thing is horribly lame. If you want to show how good you are or w/e, do it on the court.

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