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Reply #25 on: June 12, 2011, 11:15:43 pm
I got the Mavs in six.
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Reply #26 on: June 12, 2011, 11:19:52 pm
Miami played terrible. Did not deserve to win at all. To be a champion, gotta play like it, and Dallas did.

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Reply #27 on: June 13, 2011, 03:17:51 am
I have no idea how anyone has a significant beef with Lebron moving (and isn't a Cleveland fan). The Decision was god awful, but that's it. It's the NBA. It's PRO ball. If it isn't working well enough somewhere for you, you should leave. You can't just hang around to be a nice guy. 7 years was plenty. Whether YOU think it was "working well enough for him" or not is irrelevant. HE didn't think it was working well enough for him. Also, who the heck would rather live in Cleveland over Miami?

Beef with Miami for acquiring 2 great players? It's PRO ball, and it's the NBA.

Beef with Dwayne Wade? For what?? Dude's the bomb.


Really?  I seem to remember one Dirk Nowitzski hanging around in Dallas.  Worked out pretty damn good for him.  That's something refreshing to see, a guy who sticks with a franchise rather than bolting and teaming up with a few guys to win a NBA championship.  This isn't baseball where a team can come in and offer a guy millions more than the hometown team can pay him.   Lebron could've acutally made more money in Cleveland, his brand was big, not so much anymore. 


Lebron has been hurt by the move to Miami.  He may or may not get a ring, but to go on national TV and crush the hopes and dreams of an entire city the way he did, I lost respect and admiration for him.  I hope the guy never wins a title.


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Reply #28 on: June 13, 2011, 09:17:27 am
"All the people that were rooting me on to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life they had before,” James said. “They have the same personal problems they had to today. I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want with me and my family and be happy with that.”

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Reply #29 on: June 13, 2011, 10:08:17 am
"All the people that were rooting me on to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life they had before,” James said. “They have the same personal problems they had to today. I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want with me and my family and be happy with that.”

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He is correct.  You know that, right?
 
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Reply #30 on: June 13, 2011, 10:51:55 am
"All the people that were rooting me on to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life they had before,” James said. “They have the same personal problems they had to today. I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want with me and my family and be happy with that.”

- LeArod

He is correct. He also needs to STFU. If anyone was rooting for him to fail it was probably because he comes off as thinking of himself as the center of the universe, whether he really does or not. Saw a tweet  that Dallas has declared today to be"Lebron" Day. Everyone gets to leave work 12 minutes early!
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Reply #31 on: June 13, 2011, 11:05:20 am
He is correct.  You know that, right?
 
And Arod has a ring

Ok.  He's correct. 

To release a statement means he's even more narcissistic than we thought or it bothers him despite saying otherwise.  Lebron, shut up and work on your game.
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Reply #32 on: June 13, 2011, 12:21:00 pm
Really?  I seem to remember one Dirk Nowitzski hanging around in Dallas.  Worked out pretty damn good for him.  That's something refreshing to see, a guy who sticks with a franchise rather than bolting and teaming up with a few guys to win a NBA championship.  This isn't baseball where a team can come in and offer a guy millions more than the hometown team can pay him.   Lebron could've acutally made more money in Cleveland, his brand was big, not so much anymore. 


Lebron has been hurt by the move to Miami.  He may or may not get a ring, but to go on national TV and crush the hopes and dreams of an entire city the way he did, I lost respect and admiration for him.  I hope the guy never wins a title.
It's Lebron's decision what is good for him, not Dirk's. Apparently Lebron didn't feel that Cleveland was that. I don't think he wanted to wait 13 NBA seasons to win a ring and didn't see that happening in Cleveland soon enough. If Lebron hasn't won a title in the next 5 seasons, the point about it working well for Dirk will be worth something. Also, Dallas is a lot easier place to stay than Cleveland (the cities).

I don't understand why it is on Lebron to carry these peoples' dreams. He gave them 7 years. At some point he's got to do what he thinks is best for his career. Apparently he cares more about winning than money.


Anyways, I reeeaaally care very little about this. You can respond, but if I do it'll be short. I just like debate haha. I'm a DWade fan is all. I could give 2 shits about Lebron.

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Reply #33 on: June 13, 2011, 12:35:53 pm
He is correct.  You know that, right?
 
And Arod has a ring

Ok.  He's correct. 

Lebron, shut up and work on your game.


He needs to work on his jumpshot and his clock management.


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Reply #34 on: June 13, 2011, 12:40:43 pm
Lebron is a douche.  With that said I don't really fault him for chasing a ring - lots of players do it.  they just typically wait to later in their career to do it and they don't do it the way he did it.  The TV show is what really I think stoked most people's hate.  You want to chase a ring elsewhere - well man up and tell the Cav's you aren't coming back.  I have no idea who advises him, if anyone, but is obvious they have no connection to the fans or the public.

The man has immense talent and likely COULD be the best ever.  He just doesn't seem to have the heart or the mental make up to make it reality.  What separates the greats from the all time greats is not talent, but their mental make up.  I mean hell Lebron isnt even the leader of the Heat.  The Heat are Wade's team.  Part of what makes great players even greater is the battles they have to have to reach the top.  Do they shrink from the challenge or do they face it head on.  We know Lebron tried to take a short cut.  So far it hasn't worked out.

Will be interesting to see if the new collective bargaining agreement will force the heat to break up.  If there is a hard cap set low enough 3 max contracts might not be doable and if I am the heat I will take Bosh and Wade and send Lebron packing.
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Reply #35 on: June 13, 2011, 01:17:42 pm
"All the people that were rooting me on to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life they had before,” James said. “They have the same personal problems they had to today. I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want with me and my family and be happy with that.”

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He is correct.  You know that, right?
 
And Arod has a ring

I meant the pre-Kate Hudson ARod, where he would always come up small in a big spot and would do / say the dumbest things that only made him come across even worse.  That was just too much to put with the quote.

While what he said is true, he has brought it upon himself and saying things like that is only going to add more fuel to the fire.

He clearly has a false sense of reality, but it is all he knows, since he was crowned before he accomplished anything.

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Reply #36 on: June 13, 2011, 01:19:56 pm
Lebron is a douche.  With that said I don't really fault him for chasing a ring - lots of players do it.  they just typically wait to later in their career to do it and they don't do it the way he did it.  The TV show is what really I think stoked most people's hate.  You want to chase a ring elsewhere - well man up and tell the Cav's you aren't coming back.  I have no idea who advises him, if anyone, but is obvious they have no connection to the fans or the public.

The man has immense talent and likely COULD be the best ever.  He just doesn't seem to have the heart or the mental make up to make it reality.  What separates the greats from the all time greats is not talent, but their mental make up.  I mean hell Lebron isnt even the leader of the Heat.  The Heat are Wade's team.  Part of what makes great players even greater is the battles they have to have to reach the top.  Do they shrink from the challenge or do they face it head on.  We know Lebron tried to take a short cut.  So far it hasn't worked out.

Will be interesting to see if the new collective bargaining agreement will force the heat to break up.  If there is a hard cap set low enough 3 max contracts might not be doable and if I am the heat I will take Bosh and Wade and send Lebron packing.

Agree with almost all of this, but you keep Bosh and Wade and send LeBron on his way?  Can't say I agree with that.
 
People act like LBJ's career just ended- hell he's what 27?  He needs to stop defering the ball to DWade IMO. 
 
All of that said, congrats to Dallas, I'm ok with them winning it.  At the end of the day, I really don't care that much about NBA Hoops, just something to distract me from real life for a minute or two. 
 
Truthfully the only thing I even care about is James shutting up fools like Skip Bayless who constantly bash the guy for doing what I think is nothing wrong.
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Reply #37 on: June 13, 2011, 01:31:47 pm
LeBron's +/- game by game for the series:
 
Game 1: +9
Game 2: -5
Game 3: +1
Game 4: -6
Game 5: -11
Game 6: -24
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Total = -36
 
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Reply #38 on: June 13, 2011, 01:39:46 pm
At least LBJ doesn't hit women like Kidd.   :))
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Reply #39 on: June 13, 2011, 01:42:48 pm

Agree with almost all of this, but you keep Bosh and Wade and send LeBron on his way?  Can't say I agree with that.


Well it seems like Bosh and Wade compliment each other better.  I wouldn't trade Wade - the dude is a player.  So the question then is do you keep Lebron or Bosh - and I just think Bosh fits the role better.  No question though that Lebron has more talent.  Just think booting Lebron and picking up a few more pieces for the bench would do wonders. 
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Reply #40 on: June 13, 2011, 01:50:09 pm
At least LBJ doesn't hit women like Kidd.   :))

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Reply #41 on: June 13, 2011, 02:41:41 pm
It was definitely "The Announcement" that did it for me.  I don't blame Lebron for wanting to and eventually leaving Cleveland.  And in general I don't pull against him.  But the way his move was handled was annoying. 

Plus, I've been a Nowitki fan for years and got tired of hearing how he was soft because he had never won a title.

I think Normmm was probably right all along, we'll be really good next year.


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Reply #42 on: June 13, 2011, 02:43:39 pm
"All the people that were rooting me on to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life they had before,” James said. “They have the same personal problems they had to today. I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want with me and my family and be happy with that.”

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When he said that I just sat there like "wow, buddy... keep digging that grave."


He has no sense of reality.


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Reply #43 on: June 13, 2011, 02:49:41 pm
Lebron is a bit childish and narcissistic.  The way he left for Miami, his 'you're lives are crap' comments last night, and coughgate back this up.  This type of behavior made me root for Dallas.  It's not as bad as Kidd's battery, but it's fresher in all of our minds.  This is the sound byte era afterall.

With that said, he's just a little prickish--which is a far cry from starting a dog fighting ring, killing someone while drunk driving, or  any number of things that you see NFL'ers and politicians do seemingly all the time.

You've got to feel good for Dirk though.
 
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Reply #45 on: June 13, 2011, 04:22:49 pm
Lebron is a bit childish and narcissistic.  The way he left for Miami, his 'you're lives are crap' comments last night, and coughgate back this up.  This type of behavior made me root for Dallas.  It's not as bad as Kidd's battery, but it's fresher in all of our minds.  This is the sound byte era afterall.

With that said, he's just a little prickish--which is a far cry from starting a dog fighting ring, killing someone while drunk driving, or  any number of things that you see NFL'ers and politicians do seemingly all the time.

You've got to feel good for Dirk though.

Let's add taking the video away after getting dunked on, ripping your jersey off after losing, not shaking hands after losing... he's pretty much a 12 year old in a 27 year old body, if things aren't going right he takes his ball and goes home.
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Reply #46 on: June 13, 2011, 04:33:16 pm
Let's add taking the video away after getting dunked on
Seriously, that may have been the worst one of all! I had forgotten about that one, but at the time I was flabbergasted at him.

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Reply #47 on: June 13, 2011, 04:48:37 pm
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Reply #48 on: June 13, 2011, 05:00:14 pm
Should Lebron have stayed in Cleveland?  Dunno- not my call.
 
Was "The Decision" one of the dumbest things ever?  Yes- that's what happens when you listen to "your boys" instead of pros
 
Is he one of the best players or the best player in the league? no doubt
 
Will he ever win a title(s)?  I'd bet on it
 
Funny thing is, he's a little immature but seems to be an ok guy to be arguably the best player in a prima donna league- I just don't get why everybody hates him so much.
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Reply #49 on: June 13, 2011, 06:20:08 pm
The Decision to air the Decision on Espn wasn't stupid.  People in Cleveland are just anal.  Hey you go be stuck in Cleveland over Miami.  Women, weather, women, low taxes, women, location, women.  Yeah, f*ck Cleveland!
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