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on: November 05, 2012, 04:27:31 pm
An article in the Charlotte Business Journal discusses LA's desire for one or two NFL teams to fill the downtown stadium they plan to build.  Since the NFL is not discussing expansion LA will have to look to relocation and the Panthers are on the list.
 
If they moved I do not believe that the 49ers would replace the Panthers for most fans in town, but we might pick up some of our alumni that already have NFL tickets and are not buying FSLs because of that commitment.
 
The City Council has already indicated their willingness to bend over to keep the team here so it probably is a moot point but it does make me wonder how it would effect us.
 
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Reply #1 on: November 05, 2012, 04:33:03 pm
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Reply #2 on: November 05, 2012, 04:35:14 pm
The fact that the Panthers own their stadium make it much less likely that they go anywhere.  The only thing that concerns me is what the Big Cat's plans are.  He sidelined both his sons.
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Reply #3 on: November 05, 2012, 04:52:51 pm
Agree with all 3 posts.
 
Charlotte Council bending over to help pay for renovations + Panthers owning the stadium + overall lousiness that is the Jacksonville Jaguars franchise = Panthers will stay in Charlotte.  Richardson also has a short ride to his alma mater for training camp now as well as just putting his name on the field at Charlotte.
 
Add all that together and I don't see the Panthers leaving any time soon. 


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Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 04:55:04 pm
The Panthers PSL holders would drop lawsuits for years.
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Reply #5 on: November 05, 2012, 05:21:18 pm
The fact that the Panthers own their stadium make it much less likely that they go anywhere.  The only thing that concerns me is what the Big Cat's plans are.  He sidelined both his sons.
He fired them, but they're still owners.


The Panthers won't leave and if they did, I wouldn't take any comfort in the fact it might help our program. I would be devastated if we lost the Panthers and no level of success that we could realistically attain would make up for it.


That said, I don't think it'll ever happen.


The Panthers have one of the largest markets the NFL. The Charlotte market is not huge in itself, but our games are distributed throughout 90% of both of the Carolina's. All those houses added up makes for the 6th biggest distribution network in the NFL.


Jacksonville, the Bills, or new teams are all way more likely.


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Reply #6 on: November 08, 2012, 07:34:03 am
The Panthers PSL holders would drop lawsuits for years.

 
Being a PSL owner, I sure as hell would but I see this as .01% chance of happening.


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Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 12:18:05 pm
Yeah, no.


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Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 03:17:44 pm
The Panthers PSL holders would drop lawsuits for years.

 
Being a PSL owner, I sure as hell would but I see this as .01% chance of happening.

what would be the legality issue on this? Was there something stated when you bought the PSL? I understand you own a seat but is there anything stated about length of time? Or can you sue if they moved the Panthers anytime?
 
Other teams with PSL owners have moved correct? What happened with them? Repaid PSL money?


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Reply #9 on: November 09, 2012, 09:08:20 pm
Out here in LA, they've been talking about the Chargers moving up here.  Everyone else that has been discussed is committed elsewhere, except for the Rams.  Jacksonville's owner is tied to Jax and London.  If they move, it's to London.  The Bills were never seriously discussed for anywhere but Toronto.  Minnesota re-upped for a new stadium.


Unless the Chargers get a new stadium very soon, they're first in line.  After that, the Rams are the hottest prospect, with an LA-based ownership group (I believe) that just tried to buy the Dodgers as well.


Panthers aren't even on the radar.  Not sure why that even came up.


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Reply #10 on: November 09, 2012, 10:29:29 pm
Panthers aren't even on the radar.  Not sure why that even came up.


Sensationalist journalism at it's finest.  Writer at Charlotte Business Journal basically creating a story where there wasn't one.
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Reply #11 on: November 10, 2012, 08:29:12 am
clt would prefer to trade the bobcats for a mls or MLB team.


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Reply #12 on: November 10, 2012, 01:22:14 pm
clt would prefer to trade the bobcats for a mls or MLB team.

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Reply #13 on: November 10, 2012, 09:31:20 pm
clt would prefer to trade the bobcats for a mls or MLB team.


Word is that Charlotte is a target for the next MLS expansion.  There is enough remaining entertainment dollars in the Charlotte region for MLS, but not MLB.  Baseball is a money vacuum because of the number of games.


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Reply #14 on: November 11, 2012, 01:52:45 am
clt would prefer to trade the bobcats for a mls or MLB team.


Word is that Charlotte is a target for the next MLS expansion.  There is enough remaining entertainment dollars in the Charlotte region for MLS, but not MLB.  Baseball is a money vacuum because of the number of games.


Would love to see an MLS team in charlotte, have no desire to see mlb any time soon.  Until they fix their economics a team would have no chance in succeeding.
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Reply #15 on: November 11, 2012, 07:54:28 am
clt would prefer to trade the bobcats for a mls or MLB team.


Word is that Charlotte is a target for the next MLS expansion.  There is enough remaining entertainment dollars in the Charlotte region for MLS, but not MLB.  Baseball is a money vacuum because of the number of games.


Would love to see an MLS team in charlotte, have no desire to see mlb any time soon.  Until they fix their economics a team would have no chance in succeeding.




clt says the economics of MLB have never been better. Massive tv revenue generated by regional tv networks.


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Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 08:48:08 am
clt would prefer to trade the bobcats for a mls or MLB team.

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Reply #17 on: November 11, 2012, 09:25:52 am
clt would prefer to trade the bobcats for a mls or MLB team.


Word is that Charlotte is a target for the next MLS expansion.  There is enough remaining entertainment dollars in the Charlotte region for MLS, but not MLB.  Baseball is a money vacuum because of the number of games.


Would love to see an MLS team in charlotte, have no desire to see mlb any time soon.  Until they fix their economics a team would have no chance in succeeding.

clt says the economics of MLB have never been better. Massive tv revenue generated by regional tv networks.


Never been better shouldn't be confused with good.  The economic model with our market size is pretty much a promise that we would have a losing club, with no cap and floor like NBA and NFL promoting parity we would suck.
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Reply #18 on: November 12, 2012, 01:14:47 pm
Wouldn't be pretty funny if the Rams moved back to LA? 

The Raiders moved from Oakland to LA and then back to Oakland.  Nobody in LA seemed to notice. 

LA has two NBA teams, two MLB teams and two NHL teams.  How have they not had an NFL team since 1994?


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Reply #19 on: November 12, 2012, 01:34:24 pm
I'd be ok with the Panthers leaving after what I paid to see in person yesterday.



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Reply #20 on: November 12, 2012, 01:58:06 pm
Jerry Richardson says he's not leaving.  Well Mr. & Mrs. Richardson aren't gonna life forever, & they're dueling sons would have to sell most of the team to pay the inheritance tax.  The new owner might well go to LA.
 
I would think of MLS more in the Raleigh area.
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Reply #21 on: November 12, 2012, 02:45:48 pm
Jerry Richardson says he's not leaving.  Well Mr. & Mrs. Richardson aren't gonna life forever, & they're dueling sons would have to sell most of the team to pay the inheritance tax.  The new owner might well go to LA.
 

 
No one even knows who it will be left to. It would be awesome if it was left to the fans and operated like GB.
 
 
SD is the obvious choice at this point. California doesn't need 4 teams when at one point, none of the current the current could sell out a game.
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Reply #22 on: November 12, 2012, 03:04:50 pm
Jerry's sons are going to get the team, but remember, they'll only own something like 51% of the team. Jerry Richardson is not even close to the sole owner of the team.


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Reply #23 on: November 12, 2012, 03:19:21 pm
Jerry's sons are going to get the team, but remember, they'll only own something like 51% of the team. Jerry Richardson is not even close to the sole owner of the team.

The Redskins were supposed to go to Jack Kent Cooke's son, but that didn't work out either when he couldn't come up with the necessary cash.  I can't remember the problem he ran into, but eventually the league sided with Daniel Snyder.
 
I am sure The Big Cat has a legit succession plan in place, but things can get sticky.  He says he has an heir, wouldn't provide any details and has shown that he and his sons have had a difference in philosophy in the past.  In the end I think you are right the sons will get the team and things will just keep going, but who knows what may happen.
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Reply #24 on: November 12, 2012, 03:39:20 pm
Jerry's sons are going to get the team, but remember, they'll only own something like 51% of the team. Jerry Richardson is not even close to the sole owner of the team.

The Redskins were supposed to go to Jack Kent Cooke's son, but that didn't work out either when he couldn't come up with the necessary cash.  I can't remember the problem he ran into, but eventually the league sided with Daniel Snyder.
 
I am sure The Big Cat has a legit succession plan in place, but things can get sticky.  He says he has an heir, wouldn't provide any details and has shown that he and his sons have had a difference in philosophy in the past.  In the end I think you are right the sons will get the team and things will just keep going, but who knows what may happen.
I know he teamed up with McColl on the 49ers stadium.  Was that just names on the checks or is there a relationship between the two?
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