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Reply #25 on: February 07, 2013, 11:58:12 am
Or zero points, the US seems to struggle a lot against Costa Rica, even when their teams aren't as good.

The back line definitely made some mistakes, but they were also under a lot of pressure. I couldn't figure out what the heck the midfield was doing in this game. There was hardly any pressure on the ball from the midfielders for the parts I watched. Gave them much too much space. Everyone looked lazy on defense, and the offense was only mildly better. Were they told to conserve energy? Or were they all tired to start the game for some reason?

I don't find the loss in Honduras that surprising, but the way the team looked while it happened was concerning.


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Reply #26 on: March 27, 2013, 09:12:38 am
Great performance over the past two games. I was expecting 1 point from the two games, hoping for 3. Instead we got 4 points out of a possible 6.
 
I think Guzan may need to be the starter from here on out.
 
Also looks like MLS is starting to show it's impact. Didn't every player on the pitch last night for the US go through the MLS?
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Reply #27 on: March 27, 2013, 09:19:48 am
We had an unbelievable resolve last night, despite being on the defensive for about 85 minutes.  Estadio Azteca has been a house of horrors for us since...well...ever.  WC is now in sight.


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Reply #28 on: June 18, 2013, 11:06:26 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1676246-usa-vs-honduras-americans-are-locks-to-win-world-cup-qualifier
 
That's such a setup for a disappointment. However, the team has been in good form lately. really like what they are doing with the younger guys - and Jozy establishing himself as a feature/star player striker completely changes the team dynamic the same way having Abby Wambach up front does for the WMNT.
 
I'm really starting to get behind this team and Klinnsman's handling of them.
 
This'll be the last chance to catch them before September.
 
On ESPN, coverage starts at 8:30. Game is sold out.
 
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/06/18/kick-confidence-high-usmnt-prep-honduras-rematch-sold-out-rio-tinto-stadium
 
Go USA! Let's get some revenge on Honduras!


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Reply #29 on: June 18, 2013, 11:14:36 am
Why do people insist on using "futbol?"


In English, it's soccer or football.


Also, Jozy is a true American hero. I think I'll name a future child after him.
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Reply #30 on: June 18, 2013, 11:18:08 am
Why do people insist on using "futbol?"


In English, it's soccer or football.


Also, Jozy is a true American hero. I think I'll name a future child after him.


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Reply #31 on: June 18, 2013, 11:19:52 am
Why do people insist on using "futbol?"


In English, it's soccer or football.


Also, Jozy is a true American hero. I think I'll name a future child after him.


I KNEW this was coming.....


That's what she said.
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Reply #32 on: June 18, 2013, 11:30:36 am
In English, it's soccer or football.

Actually, in English, it's "football".
 
In 'murican, we introduce the confusion. We're the UNC system of the football world.
 
That said, I prefer to call it "proper football". Because.


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Reply #33 on: July 21, 2013, 07:33:25 pm
Past time to get this thread going again.
 
I realize the competition has not been elite, but we are also playing our B team. Love what Klinnsman has done to this team. We play a more attacking style than I can ever remember. I think the US has outscored its opposition 16-3 in the Gold Cup so far. That is absolute domination.
 
Fantastic game by Landon Donovan today, and the Eddie Johnson sub has to go down as the most fortuitous ever, with him scoring a goal 15 secs after he got in the game, to break it open (3-1).
 
5 goals for the USMNT today and it could have easily been 7 or 8.
 
And then this:
 


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Reply #34 on: July 21, 2013, 08:38:34 pm
That game was a lot of fun to watch.  All of our performances in this tourney have been a lot of fun to watch.  They are really buying into the "attack in waves" style that Kinsmann talked about when he took over.

We haven't sat back to defend a lead in any of these games.

PS: I bought tickets to the semifinals in Dallas.  I CANNOT FREAKING WAIT to be in the stands rooting for the Red, White and Blue!


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Reply #35 on: July 22, 2013, 06:56:49 am
Landon Donovan is on fire right now. You can tell this squad really respects him.


Wonder if he'd get the same treatment from the "A" squad that he basically quit on.
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Reply #36 on: July 22, 2013, 09:51:31 am
That game was a lot of fun to watch.  All of our performances in this tourney have been a lot of fun to watch.  They are really buying into the "attack in waves" style that Kinsmann talked about when he took over.

We haven't sat back to defend a lead in any of these games.

PS: I bought tickets to the semifinals in Dallas.  I CANNOT FREAKING WAIT to be in the stands rooting for the Red, White and Blue!

I'm kicking myself for not getting on board to go this weekend. They don't market the national team very well here... both the friendly vs. Germany at RFK and this game at M&T were largely without fanfare.
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Reply #37 on: July 22, 2013, 10:06:38 am
Also of note. The USMNT scored two goals yesterday off short corners.


I still hate short corners, but it's working for them right now.
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Reply #38 on: July 22, 2013, 10:33:33 am
That game was a lot of fun to watch.  All of our performances in this tourney have been a lot of fun to watch.  They are really buying into the "attack in waves" style that Kinsmann talked about when he took over.

We haven't sat back to defend a lead in any of these games.

PS: I bought tickets to the semifinals in Dallas.  I CANNOT FREAKING WAIT to be in the stands rooting for the Red, White and Blue!

I'm kicking myself for not getting on board to go this weekend. They don't market the national team very well here... both the friendly vs. Germany at RFK and this game at M&T were largely without fanfare.


47,359 vs. Germany at RFK (Friendly)
70,540 vs. El Salvador at M&T Bank Stadium (Gold Cup Quarterfinals)


Apparently they don't need to advertise much to get butts in seats.


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Reply #39 on: July 22, 2013, 10:35:40 am
Also of note. The USMNT scored two goals yesterday off short corners.


I still hate short corners, but it's working for them right now.


They had the El Salvador set piece defense completely figured out.  You could tell they practiced that exact scheme to death in practice.


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Reply #40 on: July 22, 2013, 10:37:58 am
Also of note. The USMNT scored two goals yesterday off short corners.


I still hate short corners, but it's working for them right now.


They had the El Salvador set piece defense completely figured out.  You could tell they practiced that exact scheme to death in practice.


Landon's assist on the first goal was a beautiful example of ball control. It's not easy to bring a ball down with your chest while moving in the same direction as the pass. He made it look easy.
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Reply #41 on: July 22, 2013, 10:56:45 am
Donovan needs to start on the A team.  Glad he's pulled it together.  This B team is very talented and Klinsmann has tons of options.  Wondo should be pulled up as well and there are a half dozen other players who could be on the World Cup team.


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Reply #42 on: July 22, 2013, 11:18:03 am
Landon Donovan is on fire right now. You can tell this squad really respects him.


Wonder if he'd get the same treatment from the "A" squad that he basically quit on.
Probably not to the same degree, because there's a lot more guys on the A team with experience at the top levels. But Donovan is clearly re-earning his spot on the first team, I doubt it will be an issue if he continues to be brought in slowly (i.e. as a backup at first, then possibly a starter).

My take on some of the other guys:

I think Eddie Johnson probably deserves a backup role on that first team. I know he's inconsistent, but he seems improved over his past appearances even before this Gold cup, with a more well-rounded game and better work rate.

Corona might be worth a look on the first squad also.

The other guys on this team are wait and see. Shea had a moment of good play thanks to a nice set-up from Donovan, but has been awful otherwise. Really hope Stoke can help him, and not just park him on the bench for poor play. 

I'm a fan of Gomez, because he works hard and does a lot of the little things well, but I'm not sure he plays over other guys at this point. Maybe as a backup in the top spot.

Wondo has finally had some good fortune in this tournament, but he sure seems to squander a lot of good opportunities. Perhaps a little unfair, but I can't help thinking he would go back to having trouble when better competition gives him less time and space to finish, as his technique seems to break down a lot when under pressure (lots of sky balls and scuffed shots).

Torres is decent, but who does he play over? He seems to do best when he can control how the ball moves around, but at the top levels that gets harder to do and he isn't the fastest guy, so other speedsters seem to give him trouble.

Beckerman again has good play against inferior competition, so it's tempting to think he might earn a spot with the WC team. But once the speed picks up, he will again show he's a major liability.

Besler has probably worked into a backup role, unless guys get injured, but he does seem like he's still learning proper positioning.

Beasley seems to be the default option at left back, but I'd sure like to see someone else there. He's good for about 2-3 bad defensive plays a game, though he has helped the attack at times. I'm glad to see him playing a role again on the national team (because I think he works hard and has a good attitude), but he relies on his speed a lot and just isn't fast enough at this point.


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Reply #43 on: July 22, 2013, 12:14:47 pm
The El Salvador game sold so well because of all the Salvadoran ex-pats in the Bmore area. That stadium was about 75% El Salv blue. Their money is just as green, but I'd rather see more USA fans. 
 
Ken, your player breakdown is really good. Echo'd so many of my thoughts - Donovan, Corona, Eddie Johnson especially. Eddie is really improved.
 
And I agree that Wondo squanders opportunities. He is tiny, lacks athleticism and his technique is not great. He was scoring against bad competition on instinct, but that ended when we started him. At best, in my mind, he's a deep bench, hail mary type of sub. He's never going to be starter material.
 
Will disagree on Beckerman. Maybe he's a super guy, but he does nothing for me as a fan. He is slow, his techinque is questionable, and his instincts are nothing special. Beasley at least has some speed and as noted can help on the attack. If Beckerman is a real option on the A team then we have found a weakness.
 
And FWIW I agree on Beasley too - he's not ideal at left back.
 
But I really do love how this team is constantly on the attack. Beasley still running hard to get open on the attack in the closing minutes yesterday was great.
 
The entire squad (A&B teams) has a pretty solid identity at this point. Solid up front and in the middle, and deep at GK (knock on wood), with a questionable back line. As things progress, I suspect we'll be giving up goals every game in qualifying and round 1 play in the Cup, but I think we may just have the offense nailed down enough to overcome it. I don't think we're going to be scoring 4 goals against WC teams, but I don't see us losing 1-nil either. We're probably going to have to win a bunch of 2-1 or 3-2 type games.


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Reply #44 on: July 22, 2013, 12:15:51 pm
Landon Donovan is on fire right now. You can tell this squad really respects him.


Wonder if he'd get the same treatment from the "A" squad that he basically quit on.
Probably not to the same degree, because there's a lot more guys on the A team with experience at the top levels. But Donovan is clearly re-earning his spot on the first team, I doubt it will be an issue if he continues to be brought in slowly (i.e. as a backup at first, then possibly a starter).

My take on some of the other guys:

I think Eddie Johnson probably deserves a backup role on that first team. I know he's inconsistent, but he seems improved over his past appearances even before this Gold cup, with a more well-rounded game and better work rate.

Corona might be worth a look on the first squad also.

The other guys on this team are wait and see. Shea had a moment of good play thanks to a nice set-up from Donovan, but has been awful otherwise. Really hope Stoke can help him, and not just park him on the bench for poor play. 

I'm a fan of Gomez, because he works hard and does a lot of the little things well, but I'm not sure he plays over other guys at this point. Maybe as a backup in the top spot.

Wondo has finally had some good fortune in this tournament, but he sure seems to squander a lot of good opportunities. Perhaps a little unfair, but I can't help thinking he would go back to having trouble when better competition gives him less time and space to finish, as his technique seems to break down a lot when under pressure (lots of sky balls and scuffed shots).

Torres is decent, but who does he play over? He seems to do best when he can control how the ball moves around, but at the top levels that gets harder to do and he isn't the fastest guy, so other speedsters seem to give him trouble.

Beckerman again has good play against inferior competition, so it's tempting to think he might earn a spot with the WC team. But once the speed picks up, he will again show he's a major liability.

Besler has probably worked into a backup role, unless guys get injured, but he does seem like he's still learning proper positioning.

Beasley seems to be the default option at left back, but I'd sure like to see someone else there. He's good for about 2-3 bad defensive plays a game, though he has helped the attack at times. I'm glad to see him playing a role again on the national team (because I think he works hard and has a good attitude), but he relies on his speed a lot and just isn't fast enough at this point.


If he's our LB next summer in Brazil we are in trouble.  I think there are definitely better options there (Fabian Johnson for one).


If some unknown El Salvadorian striker was destroying him the other day, what will he do against the likes of Robben?


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Reply #45 on: July 22, 2013, 12:28:20 pm
My biggest disappointment from this GC was Jack McInerney not getting much time and then being sent back to Philly.  I am really interested in seeing how he develops.  He's just been on fire as of late.  I'd much rather see him cut his teeth than a guy like Wondo, who is never going to be an answer at the A team level.




I agree on Beasley.  If he's there for Brazil we are screwed.  The fact that guys like Beasley, Beckerman,  kljestan keep getting call ups dumbfound me.   


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Reply #46 on: July 22, 2013, 03:18:40 pm
I guess I'm in the minority on Wondo. He's not a pure striker at all, more of a poacher, but a goal scorer is a goal scorer.


If he finds the net again this Gold Cup, not sure how he doesn't make the qualifying squad.
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Reply #47 on: July 23, 2013, 12:22:56 am
 
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Reply #48 on: July 23, 2013, 10:00:49 am
I guess I'm in the minority on Wondo. He's not a pure striker at all, more of a poacher, but a goal scorer is a goal scorer.


If he finds the net again this Gold Cup, not sure how he doesn't make the qualifying squad.


I think Wondo could very easily take Kljestan's spot on the "A" squad.


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