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Reply #25 on: August 24, 2010, 02:10:24 pm
Is there somewhere in the US where football isn't popular?

For the most part the Northeast, especially New England, sucks for COLLEGE football. Boston College barely registers in Boston which is the very deffinition of a Pro-Town.

Sucks compared to the SE or Midwest but it's still popular. 


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Reply #26 on: August 24, 2010, 02:40:35 pm
Is there somewhere in the US where football isn't popular?

For the most part the Northeast, especially New England, sucks for COLLEGE football. Boston College barely registers in Boston which is the very deffinition of a Pro-Town.

Sucks compared to the SE or Midwest but it's still popular.

I would not use the terms northeastern college football and popular in the same sentence in a positive manner. I think the fans at U of Boston, Vermont, Northeastern and Hofstra would agree with that. Fans at Rhode Island are looking forward to moving to a lesser league as we speak, HAPPILY.


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Reply #27 on: August 24, 2010, 04:46:45 pm
Is there somewhere in the US where football isn't popular?

For the most part the Northeast, especially New England, sucks for COLLEGE football. Boston College barely registers in Boston which is the very deffinition of a Pro-Town.

Sucks compared to the SE or Midwest but it's still popular.

I would not use the terms northeastern college football and popular in the same sentence in a positive manner. I think the fans at U of Boston, Vermont, Northeastern and Hofstra would agree with that. Fans at Rhode Island are looking forward to moving to a lesser league as we speak, HAPPILY.

BC, UConn fans may disagree with you...
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Reply #28 on: August 24, 2010, 09:53:07 pm
Is there somewhere in the US where football isn't popular?

For the most part the Northeast, especially New England, sucks for COLLEGE football. Boston College barely registers in Boston which is the very deffinition of a Pro-Town.

Sucks compared to the SE or Midwest but it's still popular.

I would not use the terms northeastern college football and popular in the same sentence in a positive manner. I think the fans at U of Boston, Vermont, Northeastern and Hofstra would agree with that. Fans at Rhode Island are looking forward to moving to a lesser league as we speak, HAPPILY.

BC, UConn fans may disagree with you...

Aint Pen State in the northeast to? 
 


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Reply #29 on: August 24, 2010, 09:58:20 pm
You guys are picking out a very small number of schools from the Northeast. It just doesn't compare to football in the South.


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Reply #30 on: August 25, 2010, 11:17:31 am
You guys are picking out a very small number of schools from the Northeast. It just doesn't compare to football in the South.

No one is saying it compares.


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Reply #31 on: August 25, 2010, 11:31:12 am
Boston College and Syracuse struggle to meet their attendance expectations and Rutgers was a ghostland before Schiano turned them around. Northeast and non-Pac 10 California are college football ghostlands.


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Reply #32 on: August 25, 2010, 11:33:01 am
Let's not forget a lot of the midwest and Rocky Mountains area.


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Reply #33 on: August 25, 2010, 11:35:03 am
in the biggest city in north carolina in an on campus facility for a 25k student university, a university puts about 6500 butts in a nice 9k seat stadium.
 
I guess basketball isn't big in north carolina.
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Reply #34 on: August 25, 2010, 11:36:11 am
in the biggest city in north carolina in an on campus facility for a 25k student university, a university puts about 6500 butts in a nice 9k seat stadium.
 
I guess basketball isn't big in north carolina.

At best, the 5th largest program in the state though.


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Reply #35 on: August 25, 2010, 11:38:07 am
Keep in mind that in a place like NYC there are fans of schools from all over.  So they're rooting for ND, WVU, or whomever and could care less about watching local college football.


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Reply #36 on: August 25, 2010, 03:25:17 pm
And fans from those areas who didn't go to to college will latch onto to the popular schools.  This used to be Notre Dame, but now it's the SEC schools and USC.  This is why Oregon markets so hard in NYC.  They are trying to pick up "neutral" NYC fans. 
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Reply #37 on: August 25, 2010, 04:16:23 pm
Apparently the Wolf Pack has no intention of shelling out any money to leave the WAC.  And LA Tech, which wants to join C-USA, won't have to pay anything if and when they leave the conference.
 
USAToday.com: Nevada president believes school has no obligation to pay WAC penalty


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Reply #38 on: August 25, 2010, 05:01:01 pm
Nevada didn't sign anything, so they don't owe.
Fresno was just stupid to sign if they were leaving.
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Reply #39 on: August 25, 2010, 05:15:36 pm
Nevada didn't sign anything, so they don't owe.
Fresno was just stupid to sign if they were leaving.

If the MWC goes back and offers membership to Utah State again, there may not be a WAC to pay a penalty fee to anyway.


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Reply #40 on: August 25, 2010, 06:20:03 pm
Why the hell would someone want Utah St? 
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Reply #41 on: August 25, 2010, 06:23:00 pm
Why the hell would someone want Utah St?

You'd have to ask the Mountain West that question. They offered to Utah State before doing so to Nevada and Fresno St. Better question, what the f*** was Utah State thinking when they said "no thanks"?


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Reply #42 on: August 25, 2010, 06:41:31 pm
Why the hell would someone want Utah St?

You'd have to ask the Mountain West that question. They offered to Utah State before doing so to Nevada and Fresno St. Better question, what the f*** was Utah State thinking when they said "no thanks"?

Yea, that's a head scratcher.  MWC must want to keep their Utah presence pretty badly to want Utah State for football.
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Reply #43 on: August 25, 2010, 06:55:01 pm
Why the hell would someone want Utah St?

You'd have to ask the Mountain West that question. They offered to Utah State before doing so to Nevada and Fresno St. Better question, what the f*** was Utah State thinking when they said "no thanks"?

Yea, that's a head scratcher.  MWC must want to keep their Utah presence pretty badly to want Utah State for football.

Geographic map of the states in the MWC would (without Utah, BYU or Utah St.) have a Utah shaped hole in the middle.


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Reply #44 on: August 25, 2010, 09:43:57 pm
Yea, that's a head scratcher.  MWC must want to keep their Utah presence pretty badly to want Utah State for football.
Well, they want them more than just for football.  The men's hoops program is the main attraction.  Realtime RPI numbers go back to 2004 and here are the yearly finishes for the Aggies during that time, which are comparable to BYU (also listed below):
 
Utah State Final RPI:
2004 = 50
2005 = 36
2006 = 46
2007 = 45
2008 = 75
2009 = 23
2010 = 30
 
BYU Final RPI:
2004 = 36
2005 = 270
2006 = 68
2007 = 19
2008 = 32
2009 = 29
2010 = 23


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Reply #45 on: August 26, 2010, 07:43:33 am
Yea, that's a head scratcher.  MWC must want to keep their Utah presence pretty badly to want Utah State for football.
Well, they want them more than just for football.  The men's hoops program is the main attraction.  Realtime RPI numbers go back to 2004 and here are the yearly finishes for the Aggies during that time, which are comparable to BYU (also listed below):
 
Utah State Final RPI:
2004 = 50
2005 = 36
2006 = 46
2007 = 45
2008 = 75
2009 = 23
2010 = 30
 
BYU Final RPI:
2004 = 36
2005 = 270
2006 = 68
2007 = 19
2008 = 32
2009 = 29
2010 = 23

That would be the only reason to add them right now as far as sports go.  The Aggies' football team has not been ranked since 1966.  They are 1-50 all time against AP ranked teams.  :o    Their last season with a winning record came in 1995, and they've only had two bowl trips in the last 50 years.  Yeah, I'd say the basketball program would be what would get them in the MWC.
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Reply #46 on: August 28, 2010, 07:43:54 pm
From the Houston Chronicle:
 
Chron.com: Rhoades says UH happy in C-USA for now


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Reply #47 on: October 27, 2010, 10:46:13 pm
Nevada and Fresno decided to remain in the WAC for one more football season so they would not have to pay the heavy exit fee.  They get a reduced exit fee, though the actual amount was not released.  Montana, Texas State, and UT-San Antonio are the football replacement candidates for the WAC.  Denver and Seattle are hoping to join as non-football members.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5735144


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Reply #48 on: October 28, 2010, 06:08:33 pm
Denver and Seattle are hoping to join as non-football members.

Of course, Seattle would LOVE to rejoin the West Coast Conference.  Gotta think at some point the WCC will make it an even 10 members after BYU joins.


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Reply #49 on: November 01, 2010, 04:37:37 pm
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