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on: December 11, 2017, 07:11:15 pm
https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/meac/odu-could-have-four-players-in-nfl-games-this-weekend/article_01ea2b66-3ccd-508a-9080-91016cc1b166.html


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But Charlotte fans need a little reality check. The school took a hugely challenging step when it began football in 2013 with the intent of moving to Conference USA in 2015. Two 5-6 FCS seasons were followed by 2-10 and 4-8 records.Lambert is a respected coach who competes for recruits in the same same state with four ACC schools, Appalachian State and East Carolina. Clemson and the entire SEC are to the South.
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Reply #1 on: December 11, 2017, 07:20:00 pm
all journalist have unc roots or worship unc therefore only want the worst for us!!!
football is only one part of this!!  We have to keep making that point
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Reply #2 on: December 11, 2017, 07:29:50 pm
What value is it for his audience if Charlotte improves?  None.

Football is a small issue compared to the big picture of our issues, but it brings the most vocal people.

Colleges lose seniors every year and it is on the coach to make sure that they can compete every year.  WTH were the coaches doing for recruiting in years 3 - 5?  There is no evidence that the 39 returners will be better than their competition. 


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Reply #3 on: December 11, 2017, 07:58:26 pm
I have no issue with this. Harry is a good reporter and does and excellent job for a newspaper that actually covers its local team.

From the outside looking in I could see people having this attitude.

But he doesnít know what we know and he isnít factoring in basketball decline.

The basketball decline to me is far worse than the football issues.

I could be more patient of our basketball program had not had such a slide.


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Reply #4 on: December 11, 2017, 08:23:20 pm
This just in ODU isnít that far away from all the FBS schools he mentioned.


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Reply #5 on: December 11, 2017, 08:37:33 pm
Have to agree that Minium is a good writer and would rank him among the best covering C-USA along with sports reporter Chad Bishop of WBKO-TV in Bowling Green, KY and Southern Miss beatwriter Pat Magee of the Biloxi Sun Herald.

That said, don't always agree with him but it is nice to be able to read about the conference from someone who is guinuinely interested in C-USA.


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Reply #6 on: December 11, 2017, 09:00:05 pm
Have to agree that Minium is a good writer and would rank him among the best covering C-USA along with sports reporter Chad Bishop of WBKO-TV in Bowling Green, KY and Southern Miss beatwriter Pat Magee of the Biloxi Sun Herald.

That said, don't always agree with him but it is nice to be able to read about the conference from someone who is guinuinely interested in C-USA.

I get all my information from the O.  I can't wait for our conference basketball match ups with Georgia Southern, Georgia State, and Florida Gulf Coast this year.
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Reply #7 on: December 11, 2017, 09:19:46 pm
Is he  managing his expectations of us !!?


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Reply #8 on: December 11, 2017, 09:38:15 pm
clt says we found the soccer fan!


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Reply #9 on: December 11, 2017, 11:57:51 pm
The discontent with our athletic department goes far beyond football. Note that Minimum didnít say Charlotte was well coached, if he did go out on that flimsy limb then it would be he that needs the reality check.

Also his poorly researched synopsis did not mention the firing of both coordinators. If Wally was retained possibly you could place the blame on the offense. To expect two home run hires at coordinator is to not deal with reality.

ODU, UTSA, and Georgia St had great football traditions which I guess is why the surpassed us, not the bungling of an AD that roasted away a portion  of our fan base by having 12:00 kick-offs for two years, or who refuses to have port-a-jons like ODU does to increase capacity, or who completely botched the closing of The Black Lot.

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Reply #10 on: December 12, 2017, 02:01:26 am
Zero nuance from person clueless to past

 
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Reply #11 on: December 12, 2017, 06:09:56 am
To say Lambert is well respected in the league would be only because he is a nice guy and not for anything he has done on the field (4-20 in CUSA). Leading a football team requires more than being nice and a level of competence. This isnít a Cub Scout troop.


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Reply #12 on: December 12, 2017, 06:29:22 am
clt says it would nice to have a 49er grad covering the niners for the observer.


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Reply #13 on: December 12, 2017, 07:55:49 am
I'd want Lambert in my division too
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Reply #14 on: December 12, 2017, 08:15:15 am
all journalist have unc roots or worship unc therefore only want the worst for us!!!
football is only one part of this!!  We have to keep making that point

I don't mean this personally, because half the board thinks like you, so really I mean this towards half this board.

But this whole UNC conspiracy thing is so f***ing old. They don't think we are a  threat to them. Because we are not a threat to them. I can't read a single thread on this board without someone throwing out some pizzagate like scenario about how the mothership is working hard to keep us down. They have so many better things to do. We are fully capable of hamstringing our own university.


I do understand his point about recruiting, but that can change with time so long if we can put together some winning seasons. But, as others have pointed out, he fails to mention the absolute failure all across the AD. Our AD is so quick to mention sports other than football, but aside from soccer and golf they have been complete trash. The situation with men's basketball is most troubling when you consider we destroyed the one thing we had been good, or at least decent at for so long.


And that is the one thing that the author, and others, fail to get. We are not out here calling for Judy's job because we didn't make a bowl game this year or a post season tournament in basketball. We are calling for her job because we have the worst combined football and basketball programs in D1 and it keeps getting worse; and as icing on the cake we are consistently bad at women's basketball, baseball, and essentially everything else. It creates for a terrible fan experience, is bad publicity for the school, and is costing the University millions of dollars.


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Reply #15 on: December 12, 2017, 08:34:43 am
LOL, we aren't competing with ACC schools for recruits. Looking at our latest commits, we're going toe-to-toe with Alfonso's Spaghetti School for players.
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Reply #16 on: December 12, 2017, 08:46:11 am
clt says we found the soccer fan!

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That's it. Move along, folks. Nothing more to talk about.


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Reply #17 on: December 12, 2017, 08:47:35 am
Never thought I'd see the day when that ol' CAA program called "Ooo Dee You?" would be able to talk down to Charlotte - Well now we are here.  Pathetic how others, even the lowliest have passed Charlotte by.  But it is mostly our fault.  Oh by the way - Who excatly is it that is trying to recruit Lambert?


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Reply #18 on: December 12, 2017, 08:58:24 am
Sent the writer an email saying, basically, we get enough condescending bullshit from our own AD, Chancellor, and local rag, so please don't pile it on.  Also cited some facts and figs re: Lambert being trash.


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Reply #19 on: December 12, 2017, 09:03:12 am
all journalist have unc roots or worship unc therefore only want the worst for us!!!
football is only one part of this!!  We have to keep making that point

I don't mean this personally, because half the board thinks like you, so really I mean this towards half this board.

But this whole UNC conspiracy thing is so f***ing old.

Are you going to tell us they were not guilty of cheating again? Or are you going to tell us we deserve no coverage from our local paper?  And who is your favorite tarhole player again? 

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Reply #20 on: December 12, 2017, 09:06:01 am
I wonder if this guy would be willing to trade ODU's HC and AD for Judy and Lambert?


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Reply #21 on: December 12, 2017, 12:26:32 pm
Yup, this reeks of their coach letting this notion "slip" to the beat writer.


I'd want Lambert in my division too

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Reply #22 on: December 12, 2017, 12:35:43 pm
all journalist have unc roots or worship unc therefore only want the worst for us!!!
football is only one part of this!!  We have to keep making that point

I don't mean this personally, because half the board thinks like you, so really I mean this towards half this board.

But this whole UNC conspiracy thing is so f***ing old.

Are you going to tell us they were not guilty of cheating again? Or are you going to tell us we deserve no coverage from our local paper?  And who is your favorite tarhole player again?

Here's my take on the whole "flagship" conspiracy: it's sort of a passive "conspiracy"  No one is sitting in meeting rooms rubbing their hands together and cackling about how they are actively working to keep Charlotte down. But, the BOG is sure as hell not going to put any ACTIVE effort into making Charlotte athletics more competitive. It's  not in their interests.

It's like standing around watching your neighbor's shed burn down vs being the guy who actually started the fire and made sure it spread.


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Reply #23 on: December 12, 2017, 01:23:43 pm
Are you going to tell us they were not guilty of cheating again? Or are you going to tell us we deserve no coverage from our local paper?  And who is your favorite tarhole player again?

Fam. I'm not from North Carolina, so forgive me if I don't understand why many of you who are consistently obsess over all things baby blue and randomly throw in comments about Chapel Hill in topics that have nothing to do with them.

To an outsider it just reeks of insecurity, even moreso because the subject has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

If you want to tell me that the BOG passively aren't intervening to extinguish our self immolation then I certainly can buy that argument. But I do not believe that every beat writer is actively biased against us because they support Chapel Hill, nor do I believe that most UNC fans or alums are threatened by us. I think that's a pretty insane idea. I think at least half of them do not even know we have an FBS football program.

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Reply #24 on: December 12, 2017, 02:53:50 pm
Are you going to tell us they were not guilty of cheating again? Or are you going to tell us we deserve no coverage from our local paper?  And who is your favorite tarhole player again?

Fam. I'm not from North Carolina, so forgive me if I don't understand why many of you who are consistently obsess over all things baby blue and randomly throw in comments about Chapel Hill in topics that have nothing to do with them.

To an outsider it just reeks of insecurity, even moreso because the subject has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

If you want to tell me that the BOG passively aren't intervening to extinguish our self immolation then I certainly can buy that argument. But I do not believe that every beat writer is actively biased against us because they support Chapel Hill, nor do I believe that most UNC fans or alums are threatened by us. I think that's a pretty insane idea. I think at least half of them do not even know we have an FBS football program.





 

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