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Reply #25 on: January 04, 2005, 04:35:16 pm
Full scholarship costs in state are around $9950, out of state is around $20,050.


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Reply #26 on: January 04, 2005, 05:13:58 pm
Wow, that's a lot more than the scholarships I applied for, and it would have covered all my costs.  Is that academic or atheletic scholarships?


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Reply #27 on: January 04, 2005, 07:27:09 pm
I'm cool with any cut backs they want to make with the pregame meals. I would rather eat Nachos and dip n dots. My kids only eat the cookies in there and my wife and I don't drink like we used to so the mixed drinks are a waste. Put it to more practical purposes like putting guys like Iti's guardian on the payroll or buying a decent scoreboard.

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Reply #28 on: January 05, 2005, 12:52:19 am
The issue is do you cut scholarship funding or club perks?  Since the 49er Club is the "scholarship support arm" of the athletic program, its mission is to provide scholarship aid to the student-athletes of UNC Charlotte, not provide an array of ever-increasing benefits to its donors.  Cuts in benefits are never good, but the 49er Club isn't USAir or Wal-Mart, so the questions remains what is the purpose of the club and who does it owe its duty to?  Tuition and fees have increased by a double digit percentage in four of the past six academic years.

If $600-700 (of $1500) per Green Jacket membership goes back to the member in benefits, whats the real net value of the gift in terms of providing aid to the students?  I know that at Louisville, Cincy and several other ACC and C-USA schools, meals are only provided for the BIG donors ($5000+ or more) and at many, there is no meal program at all.  Want to donate $5000 Mr. Deacon fan?  Here's your newsletter, priority basketball and football ticket form, and a decal to put on your car!

At the end of the day, the gift should be philanthropic.  If you are giving with the idea that you should get $1500 of "value" for your $1500 donation, you really don't understand the true purpose of the club to begin with.


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Reply #29 on: January 05, 2005, 01:58:30 am
Quit your bitchin' guys and do something about it.... open your f###ing wallets!!
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Reply #30 on: January 05, 2005, 08:30:32 am
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Wow, that's a lot more than the scholarships I applied for, and it would have covered all my costs. Is that academic or atheletic scholarships?

Instate tuition and fees run about $3500/year ($1750/semester), a dorm room (cheapest option) is about $2800/year, and a meal plan that covers most every meal is about $2600/year.  Throw in books at about $600/year and that adds to about $9500 for an instate.  My example was using an apartment/suite on campus, which run about $3400+/year.

Outofstate is the same, but sub in about $13,500 for t/f.  Everything else is the same.


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Reply #31 on: January 05, 2005, 09:28:51 am
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Originally posted by TheProvider@Jan 5 2005, 01:58 AM
The issue is do you cut scholarship funding or club perks?
The issue that I raised was "Do you cut benefits of the club?" or "Do you grow the support to meet the financial challanges?".  Cutting benefits is a short term attempt without foresight or future.
The greatest boon in the popularity of Chapel Hill sports was the advent of cash registers that automatically figure change.


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Reply #32 on: January 05, 2005, 01:23:05 pm
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The issue that I raised was "Do you cut benefits of the club?" or "Do you grow the support to meet the financial challanges?". Cutting benefits is a short term attempt without foresight or future.

There's no guarantee that increasing the benefits is going to bring in more members.  We have a top 50 basketball program, yet we can't consistantly sell out our arena when tickets are very reasonably priced.  When you don't have the money to chance the benefit increase, then you have to do the alternative and cut benefits.  Those of us that give for the sole purpose of improving our program don't mind the cuts anyway.  That's the goal, to use the money to fund the athletic program and make it the best it can be.  If I don't get a benefit I was told I would, then that's different.  Cutting benefits that we once had is no big deal when the goal is to save as much money as possible to use where it needs to be used.
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Reply #33 on: January 05, 2005, 02:15:54 pm
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Originally posted by X-49er@Jan 5 2005, 01:29 PM
Cutting benefits that we once had is no big deal when the goal is to save as much money as possible to use where it needs to be used.
The key word in the above sentence is "where."  The majority of that money should go for scholarships.  I enjoy the pregame meals.  It is a perk of providing support at a certain giving level.  However, it has always been treated by me as the money I didn't spend at the concession stands on bad food or a fast food stop going down I-85 before a game.  If I have to pay $75 to eat for the season, I'm still coming out way to the good at a game.
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Reply #34 on: January 05, 2005, 07:28:20 pm
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The issue that I raised was "Do you cut benefits of the club?" or "Do you grow the support to meet the financial challanges?". Cutting benefits is a short term attempt without foresight or future.

The facts are that the benefits eat up more and more of the donation as food/alcohol costs rise, postage and printing increase, etc.  This combined with double-digit tuition increases create a need to address a solution.  Growing the club is great and critical, but snapping your fingers doesn't add members.  The 49er club is not the easiest sell in the world.  Does anyone here have an interest in joining the Wolfpack or Deacon clubs?  Unlikely.  Selling the 49er club to UNC, NCSU, Wake, etc alums isn't impossible, but the line isn't forming outside the foundation offices from these folks.  It is a cultivation process, and thus, your efforts don't immediately payoff.


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Reply #35 on: January 06, 2005, 06:40:03 pm
What is the crowd like upstairs at dinner?  Packed to the gills?  If nothing else this is going to give those who pay the $75 a shot at getting a seat with the people they came with.
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Reply #36 on: January 06, 2005, 07:30:56 pm
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Originally posted by TheProvider@Jan 5 2005, 08:34 PM
Selling the 49er club to UNC, NCSU, Wake, etc alums isn't impossible, but the line isn't forming outside the foundation offices from these folks.
The line isn't forming outside the coaches doors from top notch recruits wanting to play for Charlotte either, but the coaches get out and get them.
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Reply #37 on: January 06, 2005, 10:55:09 pm
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Originally posted by austinniner@Jan 5 2005, 02:04 AM
Quit your bitchin' guys and do something about it.... open your f###ing wallets!!
Austin, the people in this thread aren't bitching...they seem to agree with the idea of cutting benefits to support the scholarships...unless I missed a page.


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Reply #38 on: January 07, 2005, 12:45:24 am
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The line isn't forming outside the coaches doors from top notch recruits wanting to play for Charlotte either, but the coaches get out and get them.

Clearly the mission of the foundation should be changed from "supporting 49er student athletes" to "supporting club amenities for the members".  Since we are all in this together, how many new members have you brought to the table?  Oh that's right, that's someone elses job -- yours is to make sure you get a tangible return on your investment.


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Reply #39 on: January 19, 2018, 01:13:41 am
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The line isn't forming outside the coaches doors from top notch recruits wanting to play for Charlotte either, but the coaches get out and get them.

Clearly the mission of the foundation should be changed from "supporting 49er student athletes" to "supporting club amenities for the members".  Since we are all in this together, how many new members have you brought to the table?  Oh that's right, that's someone elses job -- yours is to make sure you get a tangible return on your investment.

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Reply #40 on: January 19, 2018, 01:16:34 am
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The line isn't forming outside the coaches doors from top notch recruits wanting to play for Charlotte either, but the coaches get out and get them.

Clearly the mission of the foundation should be changed from "supporting 49er student athletes" to "supporting club amenities for the members".  Since we are all in this together, how many new members have you brought to the table?  Oh that's right, that's someone elses job -- yours is to make sure you get a tangible return on your investment.

Folks.  This is what uncc is up against 28 years. 


 

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