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Reply #25 on: November 20, 2004, 08:04:02 pm
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My Boy Chisox.... I saw that dude in the Carolina hat and I thought of you. Wish you would have called him out at the game, love to see a brawl in the student section.  I think the most important thing we can do is come up with a uniform shirt that everyone can wear to the games. It is amazing to go to Wake games now and see every single student and half of all the other fans wearing those ugly ass tie dyed deacon shirt. You would want to wear them anywhere else, but at the games they look awesome and I think make a huge difference. Who do we need to talk to to get this shirt thing done???
It can't be that hard, if a group of a small number of students could get those Niner Nation shirts made and sold at a reasonable price(was it $10?) with advertising on the back, I don't see what's stopping the school from doing it and getting enough sponsor money to give them out for free.  There's a lot of room on the back of a t-shirt, sell it all and have Niner Nation on the front and place them on the 104 and 105 seats.  I understand the school has official sponsers and stuff, but if they can get Pepsi to pay up for headbands I'm sure they can get a combination of sponsers to get enough money for shirts.

It just seems like the school isn't willing to do the work to get it done, just doesn't seem like a priority to them.  Heck, I even heard that those new camping rules were done by students.  And the headband last year was proposed by that article in the UTimes, written by a student.  Niner Nation shirts were done by students.....I'm seeing a trend here.  To the school's credit they do seem to be very willing to help and do what they can, but it just doesn't seem like they are ever going to be the ones to jumpstart anything.


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Reply #26 on: November 20, 2004, 10:13:21 pm
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It just seems like the school isn't willing to do the work to get it done, just doesn't seem like a priority to them. Heck, I even heard that those new camping rules were done by students. And the headband last year was proposed by that article in the UTimes, written by a student. Niner Nation shirts were done by students.....I'm seeing a trend here. To the school's credit they do seem to be very willing to help and do what they can, but it just doesn't seem like they are ever going to be the ones to jumpstart anything.


Good point...like the adv. for the games.  The only thing I ever see is a 2 x 2 sign  at the front walkway.


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Reply #27 on: November 20, 2004, 10:40:34 pm
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If you've got a problem with me at games man, just say something to my face...
lol yeah PB, i have a problem, you arent loud enough and arent enthusiastic at all.  and you are way too kind to the refs!  :smirk:
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Reply #28 on: November 21, 2004, 12:15:01 am
Skeet, good to have you aboard.  

First off, of course I wish everyone in Halton stood and yelled the whole game.  But...I would not expect the alumni section to stand the whole time and be as enthusiastic as we are.  Many of us on here live and breathe 49er basketball.  We sit down there because we love it and we wait all summer to watch it.  

As we are forced to move to the alumni side (and upstairs), we can hopefully change that.  But I can image how it is for someone over there that wants to scream and yell, when you're surrounded by old people.  That's gotta dampen your enthusiasm somewhat.  

Second, hell would have to freeze over before it would be a good idea to move the money-makers upstairs.  Want to guess how fast they would jet?  If they aren't appreciated, many would leave...with their money, and our athletics program.

I think the whole Greek thing needs to move along too.  But that's not going to change until there is enough student demand for those seats that they have to fight for them, and show that they earn it.  Right now the hard-core fans fill up one section - 104.  There are others of course, but for the most part, we know where to find the hard-core fans.

Let's make sure Monday that 104 looks good, and well...we'll worry about the rest of the student section for the next game.  If you're brining people, try to make sure they're wearing green.  If somebody shows up in their Carolina hat, let them know that's not acceptable - not necessarily run them off, but let them know you think they suck.

We go through this every year, but judging by the last campout, I'd say we're making progress.


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Reply #29 on: November 21, 2004, 12:29:09 am
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Originally posted by Butter49er@Nov 20 2004, 08:21 PM
It just seems like the school isn't willing to do the work to get it done, just doesn't seem like a priority to them. Heck, I even heard that those new camping rules were done by students. And the headband last year was proposed by that article in the UTimes, written by a student. Niner Nation shirts were done by students.....I'm seeing a trend here. To the school's credit they do seem to be very willing to help and do what they can, but it just doesn't seem like they are ever going to be the ones to jumpstart anything.
Butter...goodness, that's just a funny name...I agree that I wish the school was more directly involved, but I honestly do think it's the job of the students to make things like the campout and the shirts happen...or at least get them rolling.  That's normally where the best ideas are going to come from, as well as the most supported ideas.

They're our team.  If we want something to improve or change, I think we would have very little trouble getting the athletic dept to listen.  We just have to let them know what we want, and get the student/alumni support for it to make it happen.


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Reply #30 on: November 21, 2004, 12:39:26 am
you hardcore campers should form a mafia like cartel and teach the others how things should work :)


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Reply #31 on: November 21, 2004, 11:27:16 am
are the niner nation shirts still available?
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Reply #32 on: November 21, 2004, 04:01:32 pm
Students...email the Student Body President and ask her to have SGA develop a GAME shirt to be sold at the games and the bookstore at a low cost, say $10 or $12...make the shirts Gang Green or niner nation or whatever...typically funds are provided to clubs and organizations on campus, hence Gang Green, a club recieved $919 this year SGA Clubs and Organ. Budget...students should not have to be in a club or organization to take advantage of the STUDENT ACTIVITIES FEES that they pay, however, having a group such as Gang Green provides organization.  It would be nice if Gang Green, greeks and all groups were required to recieve their tickets as other students, camping or waiting in line...but that's another debate...


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Reply #33 on: November 21, 2004, 06:54:21 pm
please not gang green
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Reply #34 on: November 21, 2004, 07:41:13 pm
Our most loyal fans should be an organization, with a unified student voice more things would get done.  Gang Green sucks, the organization reminds me of the band in high school, nobody knows really remembers anything they did, all they remember is that they were at the games.  I really doubt that any of the members would even think about camping out for tickets, they don't have the spirit that 104 has, but they do have things that 104 doesn't, including uniform shirts, and recognition as a student organization.  Gang Green has good intentions but the organization has no leadership and no direction at all. Maybe just an idea I'm throwing up, but if some of us campers decided to crash the party by taking over Gang Green we could create a campus buzz which would build enthusiasm for Charlotte Basketball.  I mean one the first things that would have to change is that gay name.  Niner Nation is a much better name than Gang Green, if our student's organization is named after a disease who the hell would want to join, diseases belong in Greenville.  After the name change and  2 sections that are rowdy, loud, and downright nasty, who wouldn't want to be in that.  After all, half of Charlotte's students wants to do what is "trendy".  I think there are a lot of closet fans who are afraid to come out b/c their roommates for whatever reason "Don't feel like going".  With an organization and a prevalent name on campus which is composed of Die Hard Niner fans, I think the bandwagon would break and Halton would be, even more, an amazingly tough for all opposing teams to play in.


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Reply #35 on: November 21, 2004, 08:00:24 pm
Amazing that you can say

GANG GREEN SUCKS!

a hundred times and not hear a rebuttal.  Proves none of them read this board.  They just keep getting smaller in number every game.  Cant even feel up one section.
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Reply #36 on: November 21, 2004, 08:10:38 pm
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Originally posted by Hooligan@Nov 21 2004, 08:17 PM
Amazing that you can say

GANG GREEN SUCKS!

a hundred times and not hear a rebuttal. Proves none of them read this board. They just keep getting smaller in number every game. Cant even feel up one section.
It's a nice group, but it's for the semi-'hardcore' fans.  People who really care are on this board and put in the effort to camp or show up early and get 104 seats.  Gang Green is for the people who want to be guarenteed the lower level seats, but don't want to put in the effort to get them, which is fine.

I don't know if a new student group is reasonable for now, this thread is about wearing green, all we want is a better way to get out unified green shirts to fans in 104.  

Just thinking of the options:

1)  Are there more Niner Nation shirts in the works?  Whoever did them last year or knows the people that did, when(if at all) are the new ones coming?

2)  Go to the school.  Either SGA, or the ticket office or someone else with the offical(legal) power to produce shirts.  Who got the headbands done last year?  

3)  Frats.  Anyone who knows a higher level frat guy that could talk to them about getting the correct color shirts made for this year.  don't know if this is really reasonable, I think it'd be easier if 104 all had unified shirts first.

Let's just get the ball rolling on this, either through the people who did it last year or through the school.  The school seems extremely willing to cooperate with students on issues like this, who can we contact who has the power to get something like this done?  Doesn't even have to be free, most people would pay $10 for them, probably more.  Just get something started, give us some names for those of you who know who needs to be contacted about this.


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Reply #37 on: November 21, 2004, 08:15:27 pm
Correction, I was a member for 3 years and have been following the forum since it was hosted on charlotte.com, I just knew better than to bother responding  :D

I have since graduated, and agree that it's not what it used to be, but I do have to commend them for being loud and wearing green, which is all this topic started out about anyway. I would much rather they be there than any of the frats, especially the ones brilliant enough to wear yellow and red to opponents like Marquette and Cincy.

Watch the first 3-4 rows of the section, those are your hardcore fans who will attend tons of other sporting events in order to build up points for those good seats. They may not camp out, but they do a good job supporting other sports.

Alas, I have the lower level's back this year...I'm up in the student section or 216  :lol:


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Reply #38 on: November 22, 2004, 12:08:35 am
Here's the deal on Niner Nation shirts.

There will be a total of 125 shirts printed.  We are in talks with potential sponsors.  They should be ready asap.  

Regular T-shirts will be $10.  75 available in various sizes.
Long Sleeve shirts will be $15.  25 available.
Hoodies will be $20.  25 available.  

This is what is likely going to happen, PIcasso's will be the main sponsor again, but because we are looking to get new sponsors, we hope to broaden what we can make.  The hoodies won't have any sposor logos on the back (if we make them).

If the shirts sell well, we will certainly make another batch of them.  We almost sold out last year, and there is demand this year, but we don't want to sink money into this (ours and other people's) and not have them sell.

The Niner Nation group can be contacted at ar_ninernation@yahoo.com .  We're trying to have a nicer design this year, but it's been hard getting everything together.  We hope to have them by Alabama or Davidson, but no promises.  We wanted to have them ready by home opener, but real life gets in the way (work/school), plus we have to deal with the bookstore.  We want to be able to sell the shirts on campus this year, it would make things a lot easier for everyone.

Preorders will also be handled at ar_ninernation@yahoo.com, so if you are seriously interested, let us know.  If we get enough people who want shirts, we may go ahead and make some more.  We'd like to see the whole lower level in green, either NN shirts, or Charlotte shirts or even UNCC Shirts.  Whatever it takes, just because we're going to be getting a lot of national exposure after we go undefeated in the regular season.  Gotta look good for the cameras


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Reply #39 on: November 22, 2004, 12:20:39 am
Gang Green is like any group, there are a variety of people.  Certainly those who set in section 104 are all different just as those who sat in the Gang Green section are.  That doesn't make the group bad.  I was in Gang Green for 2 years and had a great time doing it.  My proposal as always been to try and get people to wear green and come out.  Then you will have a loud arena and we won't be debating who was screaming the loudest on row 4 or 5.  I don't camp out for every game and I don't think that makes me less of a fan.  Everyone should wear green to the game if they can though.  I would hope that would be the focus for now.

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It would be nice if Gang Green, greeks and all groups were required to recieve their tickets as other students, camping or waiting in line...but that's another debate...

Amen!  I have a particuarly beef with the greeks who don't wear green.


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Reply #40 on: November 22, 2004, 09:42:58 am
At some point, I knew this thread would come up. I was a member of Gang Green for 3 years. My last year in school, I was the president. I really don't understand to this day why people cannot unify themselves as Charlotte fans and not as section 104, 110, Greeks, Gang Green. Isn't the point at being at these games to be One Team, One Voice, One Beat?  While I was president, there were numerous times where we (Gang Green) wanted to be unified with the Greeks through cheers, wearing green, etc. But the funny this is, no one wanted on the other end wanted to help in putting something together. Hopefully, times have changed. The point here is not to bash another organization for one thing or another. The point is for people to get together in one way, shape or form. The point is for everyone to wear green (whether it's Gang Green or Niner Nation shirts). The point is for everyone to have fun. That's why we're at the games. I'm sure if people would put away their egos and try to come together (heads of Greeks, Gang Green, Niner Nation) and work on some type of way to come together before games, throughout the year, etc., then things will get better. But the point is not to talk about it, the point is to have action and do something about it.

Lastly, for the record, Gang Green does have to attend sporting events throughout the year to get the tickets they get for basketball games. Sure, they don't camp out. But coming to games like volleyball and soccer and women's basketball games guarantee their tickets for mens' bball. The point of Gang Green is to support ALL Charlotte sports, not just basketball. I don't know what things are looking like now, but when I was in school, I can rememeber that Gang Green  were at games. I didn't see Greeks. I didn't see Niner Nation people. But like I said, that was over 2 years ago. Things, hopefully, are better.
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Reply #41 on: November 22, 2004, 10:25:27 am
I do wish that the student section would be unified.  I am a founding member of the Delta Sigma Phi chapter at Charlotte (Eta Rho, 1989) so I have a soft spot for the boys in green behind our bench, but I do wish they would take the lead and try to unify the student section.  From what I understand, it's still a competition for the prime seating blocks.  The competition is good in that it brings groups out to lots of sporting events (in order for them to accumulate points) but at the same time it creates, by its very nature, a division between the groups involved because there's a winner and loser.  I can't deny that the Delta Sigs haven't benefited from the exposure they get.  Other chapters around the nation know who we are just from watching ESPN.  That's great for the survival of the local group, but I don't think it's necessary.  They should do away with the competition thing and have the student section be a free-for-all, first come first serve thing.  The athletic department should then mandate that a student sitting in the section wear green, or white with green, or whatever.  I don't see why they couldn't do this since the students get their tickets for free.  I mean, look at Michigan State... their student section is amazing.  

Do away with the compeition for seating, and we do away with the bizarre colored shirts and letters, and yes, this is coming from a former frat boy.


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Reply #42 on: November 22, 2004, 12:35:00 pm
I'm an alumni, but I always felt student seating should be general admission.  This would force students to get there early and stay in their seats.  There are too many empty seats down low, especially when game time starts.  And why are the seats next to the band half full?  Are those students or alumni?
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Reply #43 on: November 22, 2004, 12:40:08 pm
CPA in theory that's a great idea, but it penalizes students due to the timing.
Ticket distribution is a morning event, so you sacrafice nightime and the wee hours of the morning.  If seating was GA on the day of the game, students wouldn't accomplish a single thing during the day, as the wait would cut into class time, labs, etc.

GA is great for weekend events like football, but would be a deterrent for basketball.


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Reply #44 on: November 22, 2004, 12:47:08 pm
I think GA wouldn't work all that well.  

What I'd like to see is student sections behind each basket.  Not the best seats, but we need rowdier fans there for free-throws.  Who sits there now?  Season ticket holders?
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Reply #45 on: November 22, 2004, 01:56:25 pm
Chisox, I'll be there wearing my UNC hat. You talk big about what you and you boys are going to do to me, and how many people have your back, but you aint s*** with you boys not covering you ass. I not no little freshman either. You just walk up to the biggest baddest MF you see with a UNC hat, take it off my head and slap my face without you boys around, then you talk about me.
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Reply #46 on: November 22, 2004, 01:58:18 pm
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Originally posted by gamer@Nov 22 2004, 02:13 PM
Chisox, I'll be there wearing my UNC hat. You talk big about what you and you boys are going to do to me, and how many people have your back, but you aint s*** with you boys not covering you ass. I not no little freshman either. You just walk up to the biggest baddest MF you see with a UNC hat, take it off my head and slap my face without you boys around, then you talk about me.
wow.... gamer sounds like a punk ass b****...  coming out of the lamers closet must be the in thing to do these days.


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