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Reply #1175 on: June 30, 2017, 01:51:51 pm
All this construction and CHP couldnt "find" the money to save a landmark.


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Reply #1176 on: June 30, 2017, 11:13:02 pm
No college that cost 80-100K for 4 years is value.

UNC Charlotte undergrad tuition and fees are about $7000 per year (in-state). Nowhere near the 80-100k you are saying. UNC Charlotte is a damn good deal.


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Reply #1177 on: July 01, 2017, 07:17:33 am
No college that cost 80-100K for 4 years is value.

UNC Charlotte undergrad tuition and fees are about $7000 per year (in-state). Nowhere near the 80-100k you are saying. UNC Charlotte is a damn good deal.


NC schools in general are a good deal.  So much so I'm thinking of letting my kids take a year off after high school, move to NC, gain residency and then go to school in NC.  Some time between now and then but that is an option I'm seriously considering. 


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Reply #1178 on: July 01, 2017, 07:47:29 am
No college that cost 80-100K for 4 years is value.

UNC Charlotte undergrad tuition and fees are about $7000 per year (in-state). Nowhere near the 80-100k you are saying. UNC Charlotte is a damn good deal.
http://finaid.uncc.edu/undergraduate-cost-attendance-budget

There is a lot more to school than just tuition. Including where you live. I purposely didn't respond to anyone because I didn't want to derail this thread since it is about construction update. Financing 80k at god knows what % to have a fifty fifty shot at being un or under employed is a bad deal. College is great if you choose a handful of majors.

A college degree is a high school diploma of 30 years ago and the schools know it. They charge a ton because everyone lives in a suite and everything has to look brand new. It is a bubble that will have to burst at some point. We can't sustain 3-5% tuition increase every year. Graduates can't continue to have 50k plus in student loans, the worst kind of debt by the way. Yes I am a finance guy and yes I chose one of the handful of right majors.


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Reply #1179 on: July 01, 2017, 08:15:27 am
I have never seen an accredited science degree in engineering being compared to anything like a highschool degree.  If an in-state student chooses a similar productive degree, the Charlotte degree earned will be a bargin and should more than pay for itself.  While you pick up other important life experiences and skills at college, you had better choose a career path that will pay your bills.


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Reply #1180 on: July 01, 2017, 08:20:39 am
The comparison was about getting a job. 30 years ago the standard was a high school degree, maybe community college. Now it is bachelors, maybe masters.


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Reply #1181 on: July 01, 2017, 09:29:17 am
The comparison was about getting a job. 30 years ago the standard was a high school degree, maybe community college. Now it is bachelors, maybe masters.

Bingo. 30 years ago to get a job paying the equivalent of $50k today you just needed a high school diploma. Now there are tons of people who paid out the ass to get a bachelor's who make that or less. There are also those who are perpetually underemployed and must drive Uber, wait tables, whatever to make ends meet.

It doesn't matter what the older generations think or say, earning power has stagnated, cost of education has skyrocketed, the value of a degree has diminished, and cost of living has gotten significantly more expensive. Those are just the facts.


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Reply #1182 on: July 01, 2017, 10:20:41 am
The comparison was about getting a job. 30 years ago the standard was a high school degree, maybe community college. Now it is bachelors, maybe masters.

Bingo. 30 years ago to get a job paying the equivalent of $50k today you just needed a high school diploma. Now there are tons of people who paid out the ass to get a bachelor's who make that or less. There are also those who are perpetually underemployed and must drive Uber, wait tables, whatever to make ends meet.

It doesn't matter what the older generations think or say, earning power has stagnated, cost of education has skyrocketed, the value of a degree has diminished, and cost of living has gotten significantly more expensive. Those are just the facts.
I'm assuming a mod wil come along and move this discussion to its own thread, so I'll respond and mention how automation is going to be eliminating a lot of the less skilled jobs.  A McDonalds with 2 people operating it isn't that far off.


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Reply #1183 on: July 02, 2017, 07:03:17 am
The comparison was about getting a job. 30 years ago the standard was a high school degree, maybe community college. Now it is bachelors, maybe masters.

Bingo. 30 years ago to get a job paying the equivalent of $50k today you just needed a high school diploma. Now there are tons of people who paid out the ass to get a bachelor's who make that or less. There are also those who are perpetually underemployed and must drive Uber, wait tables, whatever to make ends meet.

It doesn't matter what the older generations think or say, earning power has stagnated, cost of education has skyrocketed, the value of a degree has diminished, and cost of living has gotten significantly more expensive. Those are just the facts.
I'm assuming a mod wil come along and move this discussion to its own thread, so I'll respond and mention how automation is going to be eliminating a lot of the less skilled jobs.  A McDonalds with 2 people operating it isn't that far off.

clt says that could happen on campus. No we are back on track.


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Reply #1184 on: July 02, 2017, 04:45:16 pm
The comparison was about getting a job. 30 years ago the standard was a high school degree, maybe community college. Now it is bachelors, maybe masters.

Bingo. 30 years ago to get a job paying the equivalent of $50k today you just needed a high school diploma. Now there are tons of people who paid out the ass to get a bachelor's who make that or less. There are also those who are perpetually underemployed and must drive Uber, wait tables, whatever to make ends meet.

It doesn't matter what the older generations think or say, earning power has stagnated, cost of education has skyrocketed, the value of a degree has diminished, and cost of living has gotten significantly more expensive. Those are just the facts.
I'm assuming a mod wil come along and move this discussion to its own thread, so I'll respond and mention how automation is going to be eliminating a lot of the less skilled jobs.  A McDonalds with 2 people operating it isn't that far off.

clt says that could happen on campus. No we are back on track.

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Reply #1185 on: July 04, 2017, 07:15:12 am
The comparison was about getting a job. 30 years ago the standard was a high school degree, maybe community college. Now it is bachelors, maybe masters.

Bingo. 30 years ago to get a job paying the equivalent of $50k today you just needed a high school diploma. Now there are tons of people who paid out the ass to get a bachelor's who make that or less. There are also those who are perpetually underemployed and must drive Uber, wait tables, whatever to make ends meet.

It doesn't matter what the older generations think or say, earning power has stagnated, cost of education has skyrocketed, the value of a degree has diminished, and cost of living has gotten significantly more expensive. Those are just the facts.
I'm assuming a mod wil come along and move this discussion to its own thread, so I'll respond and mention how automation is going to be eliminating a lot of the less skilled jobs.  A McDonalds with 2 people operating it isn't that far off.

Just an FYI, that Charlotte is one of the biggest automation hubs in the US with many 49er alumni in the industry including myself. 


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Reply #1186 on: July 05, 2017, 11:46:40 am
No college that cost 80-100K for 4 years is value.

UNC Charlotte undergrad tuition and fees are about $7000 per year (in-state). Nowhere near the 80-100k you are saying. UNC Charlotte is a damn good deal.


NC schools in general are a good deal.  So much so I'm thinking of letting my kids take a year off after high school, move to NC, gain residency and then go to school in NC.  Some time between now and then but that is an option I'm seriously considering.
I have known families to do that - take a year off and work (which has value of building a resume) and then be a resident.  As I said before Charlotte is a tremendous value, particularly if you are in a 'monied' major.


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Reply #1187 on: July 17, 2017, 11:24:09 am
So construction has not started on new student wellness center and it was my understanding that the Union lot would be closed right after commencement finished...anyone know if that was faulty info?
They have started working on expanding the Union Deck though.
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Reply #1188 on: July 17, 2017, 11:32:39 am
Union deck construction has started
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Reply #1189 on: July 17, 2017, 02:30:23 pm
Union deck construction has started
Yes I noted that, but is the wellness center delayed? Cause I thought it would've started by now.
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Reply #1190 on: July 17, 2017, 04:07:43 pm
lol totally misread that
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Reply #1191 on: July 17, 2017, 04:33:28 pm
So construction has not started on new student wellness center and it was my understanding that the Union lot would be closed right after commencement finished...anyone know if that was faulty info?
They have started working on expanding the Union Deck though.
I think they had to rebid some jobs. This says construction starts July 20.

http://facilities.uncc.edu/sites/facilities.uncc.edu/files/fields/projects/file/HAWC_0.pdf


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Reply #1192 on: July 17, 2017, 04:41:47 pm
So construction has not started on new student wellness center and it was my understanding that the Union lot would be closed right after commencement finished...anyone know if that was faulty info?
They have started working on expanding the Union Deck though.
I think they had to rebid some jobs. This says construction starts July 20.

http://facilities.uncc.edu/sites/facilities.uncc.edu/files/fields/projects/file/HAWC_0.pdf
Ok that makes sense! Thanks!
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Reply #1193 on: July 24, 2017, 03:59:00 pm
So construction has not started on new student wellness center and it was my understanding that the Union lot would be closed right after commencement finished...anyone know if that was faulty info?
They have started working on expanding the Union Deck though.
I think they had to rebid some jobs. This says construction starts July 20.

http://facilities.uncc.edu/sites/facilities.uncc.edu/files/fields/projects/file/HAWC_0.pdf
Just received email that says that lot closes  8 p.m. Friday, July 28


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Reply #1194 on: July 24, 2017, 04:07:35 pm
They are moving right along on Union Deck expansion and Scott Hall renovation. Also Pine, Maple and Elm Halls are really looking good. I think those are supposed to be ready by Fall of 2018. Not sure though just judging by the amount of construction still going on in that area.
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Reply #1195 on: July 24, 2017, 05:10:52 pm
They are moving right along on Union Deck expansion and Scott Hall renovation. Also Pine, Maple and Elm Halls are really looking good. I think those are supposed to be ready by Fall of 2018. Not sure though just judging by the amount of construction still going on in that area.
LOL... Pine, Maple, and Elm were supposed to be done June 2016, then it was pushed to June 2017, now projecting August 23 for Elm and Pine.  Contractor on notice for Liquidated Damages.



http://facilities.uncc.edu/sites/facilities.uncc.edu/files/fields/projects/file/Elm%20Maple%20Pine.pdf


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Reply #1196 on: July 24, 2017, 05:38:05 pm
They are moving right along on Union Deck expansion and Scott Hall renovation. Also Pine, Maple and Elm Halls are really looking good. I think those are supposed to be ready by Fall of 2018. Not sure though just judging by the amount of construction still going on in that area.
LOL... Pine, Maple, and Elm were supposed to be done June 2016, then it was pushed to June 2017, now projecting August 23 for Elm and Pine.  Contractor on notice for Liquidated Damages.



http://facilities.uncc.edu/sites/facilities.uncc.edu/files/fields/projects/file/Elm%20Maple%20Pine.pdf
So Elm and Pine are Aug 23, but what about Maple?
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Reply #1197 on: July 24, 2017, 05:55:11 pm
They are moving right along on Union Deck expansion and Scott Hall renovation. Also Pine, Maple and Elm Halls are really looking good. I think those are supposed to be ready by Fall of 2018. Not sure though just judging by the amount of construction still going on in that area.
LOL... Pine, Maple, and Elm were supposed to be done June 2016, then it was pushed to June 2017, now projecting August 23 for Elm and Pine.  Contractor on notice for Liquidated Damages.



http://facilities.uncc.edu/sites/facilities.uncc.edu/files/fields/projects/file/Elm%20Maple%20Pine.pdf
So Elm and Pine are Aug 23, but what about Maple?
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Reply #1198 on: July 24, 2017, 06:30:49 pm
They are moving right along on Union Deck expansion and Scott Hall renovation. Also Pine, Maple and Elm Halls are really looking good. I think those are supposed to be ready by Fall of 2018. Not sure though just judging by the amount of construction still going on in that area.
LOL... Pine, Maple, and Elm were supposed to be done June 2016, then it was pushed to June 2017, now projecting August 23 for Elm and Pine.  Contractor on notice for Liquidated Damages.



http://facilities.uncc.edu/sites/facilities.uncc.edu/files/fields/projects/file/Elm%20Maple%20Pine.pdf
So Elm and Pine are Aug 23, but what about Maple?
Best on pancakes IMO.
Maple syrup flavored cookie are where it's at.
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Reply #1199 on: July 27, 2017, 05:56:38 pm
They are moving right along on Union Deck expansion and Scott Hall renovation. Also Pine, Maple and Elm Halls are really looking good. I think those are supposed to be ready by Fall of 2018. Not sure though just judging by the amount of construction still going on in that area.
LOL... Pine, Maple, and Elm were supposed to be done June 2016, then it was pushed to June 2017, now projecting August 23 for Elm and Pine.  Contractor on notice for Liquidated Damages.



http://facilities.uncc.edu/sites/facilities.uncc.edu/files/fields/projects/file/Elm%20Maple%20Pine.pdf
More delays https://mobile.twitter.com/rosaaxzt/status/890682432193802241/photo/1


 

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