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Reply #25 on: November 21, 2017, 07:54:07 pm
^ playing #3 team in country on espn at home had nothing to do with attendance I'm sure. I didn't read the earlier post leading up to this but if Lutz could have a sell out against Presbyterian, now that would be something.
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Reply #26 on: November 21, 2017, 08:15:35 pm
if people think Lutz was unsuccessful...I'm speechless

he was fired for slipping to 90th in RPI and 6500 average crowd at home. 

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Reply #27 on: November 21, 2017, 08:35:05 pm
He was very successful pre A10. He had 2 NIT appearances (First round losses) in 5 years while in the A10. That isn't good enough, especially with how successful he was the prior 7-8 years. It's hard to say he wasn't successful in his tenure, but going 83-75 in A10 will leave a sour taste in your mouth.


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Reply #28 on: November 21, 2017, 08:44:40 pm
He was very successful pre A10. He had 2 NIT appearances (First round losses) in 5 years while in the A10. That isn't good enough, especially with how successful he was the prior 7-8 years. It's hard to say he wasn't successful in his tenure, but going 83-75 in A10 will leave a sour taste in your mouth.


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Reply #29 on: November 21, 2017, 08:45:12 pm
Weve only exceeded 19 wins once since the season Lutz was fired. If he would have been allowed to return the following season we would have likely made the NIT or NCAA tournament. Second worst decision ever made in Niner history second only to not starting football in the late 90s.


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Reply #30 on: November 21, 2017, 08:49:22 pm
He was very successful pre A10. He had 2 NIT appearances (First round losses) in 5 years while in the A10. That isn't good enough, especially with how successful he was the prior 7-8 years. It's hard to say he wasn't successful in his tenure, but going 83-75 in A10 will leave a sour taste in your mouth.


Bobby was a good coach in the begining, but started mailing in over the last couple of years.
You would too. Direct correlation to Phil Dubois, the walking athletics destroyer tenure.  Nobody athletically likes him. Nobody.
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Reply #31 on: November 21, 2017, 10:49:07 pm
clt thinks lutz should still have a role here.


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Reply #32 on: November 22, 2017, 01:01:05 pm
He was very successful pre A10. He had 2 NIT appearances (First round losses) in 5 years while in the A10. That isn't good enough, especially with how successful he was the prior 7-8 years. It's hard to say he wasn't successful in his tenure, but going 83-75 in A10 will leave a sour taste in your mouth.


Bobby was a good coach in the begining, but started mailing in over the last couple of years.
You would too. Direct correlation to Phil Dubois, the walking athletics destroyer tenure.  Nobody athletically likes him. Nobody.
This got me curious.  We can see the evidence here at Charlotte, but what about Wyoming.


Record of recent for football prior to Dubois
74-45
Record of football coaches hired by Dubois
57-83


basketball info on wyoming is tough to find, need pip to probably help there.
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Reply #33 on: November 22, 2017, 01:11:10 pm
It's hard to say he wasn't successful in his tenure, but going 83-75 in A10 will leave a sour taste in your mouth.

I would have loved to have that 53% winning percentage in the multi-bid A10 after he was gone.  Bobby's fall started shortly after CHP arrived.
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Reply #34 on: November 22, 2017, 04:13:26 pm
LOL. Ya'll  are catching on to the fact that Phil is a big problem for athletics. SOB probably has an unconscious wish for athletics to fail. As someone noted, he was likely the last guy picked in physical education classes, so if he can't succeed, his bias is to make sure others fail. Just my own off the wall opinion.


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Reply #35 on: November 22, 2017, 04:19:57 pm
He was very successful pre A10. He had 2 NIT appearances (First round losses) in 5 years while in the A10. That isn't good enough, especially with how successful he was the prior 7-8 years. It's hard to say he wasn't successful in his tenure, but going 83-75 in A10 will leave a sour taste in your mouth.


Bobby was a good coach in the begining, but started mailing in over the last couple of years.
You would too. Direct correlation to Phil Dubois, the walking athletics destroyer tenure.  Nobody athletically likes him. Nobody.
This got me curious.  We can see the evidence here at Charlotte, but what about Wyoming.


Record of recent for football prior to Dubois
74-45
Record of football coaches hired by Dubois
57-83


basketball info on wyoming is tough to find, need pip to probably help there.




Wyoming basketball has been around since 1904.  DuBois was there from 1997 - 2005.  Here's a look at the basketball program.


1904 - 1996:     1,154-854  (57.5%)
1997 - 2005:     157-107     (59.5%)
2006 - Present:  204 - 185  (52.4%)





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Reply #36 on: November 22, 2017, 04:43:46 pm
Not to take the air out of anyones balloon,but....High Point beat Methodist yesterday...99-63.


I wouldn't be surprised if we lose this one...especially with Hudson Price getting 25+ minutes.


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Reply #37 on: November 22, 2017, 06:11:54 pm
Not to take the air out of anyones balloon,but....High Point beat Methodist yesterday...99-63.


I wouldn't be surprised if we lose this one...especially with Hudson Price getting 25+ minutes.


Hudson Price is not the problem on this team and the stats prove that out.  He is on the floor over others because frankly he plays better defense that others, doesn't turn the ball over at a high rate, doesn't take bad shots, and frankly probably plays as hard as anybody when he is on the floor. 


Here is the link to the teams stats:


https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/charlotte/2018.html





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Reply #38 on: November 22, 2017, 06:55:16 pm
Not to mention the fact that he came here from TCU as a walkon.  If I had another son, no way in hell I'd bring him here.  Pay his way and be ridiculed by an idiotic fanbase.  Hudson has earned his minutes and most reasonable fans would be thankful for his situation.
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Reply #39 on: November 22, 2017, 07:05:16 pm
Hudson was a 3 star out of high school and not a walk-on at TCU.  I actually think he is playing much better than most of the other guys especially on defense.  AA gets beats on the wing every trip down the court, Davis and White are awful on defense as well. When I played in high school our coach would pull us for getting beat that bad so often.  Hudson also is one of our better rebounders.  I am not sure what you expect from him, but do not expect him to be an all conference player or the worse on the team. 


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Reply #40 on: November 22, 2017, 07:32:27 pm
Hudson was a 3 star out of high school and not a walk-on at TCU.  I actually think he is playing much better than most of the other guys especially on defense.  AA gets beats on the wing every trip down the court, Davis and White are awful on defense as well. When I played in high school our coach would pull us for getting beat that bad so often.  Hudson also is one of our better rebounders.  I am not sure what you expect from him, but do not expect him to be an all conference player or the worse on the team.
agree. I think people just see him scoring very little and shitting on him. His effort on defense shows.  He's not going to win any national awards for his defense, but he's one of our better defenders.


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Reply #41 on: November 22, 2017, 07:43:46 pm
I don't think he is walking on here. 

But, like others have said - we don't have 'one player' that is the problem.  Not Haslem, Price, or whoever.  Start at the top, not at the bottom, if you want to cast blame.


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Reply #42 on: November 22, 2017, 08:25:57 pm

Wyoming basketball has been around since 1904.  DuBois was there from 1997 - 2005.  Here's a look at the basketball program.

1904 - 1996:     1,154-854  (57.5%)
1997 - 2005:     157-107     (59.5%)
2006 - Present:  204 - 185  (52.4%)
Includes a national championship in 1943.
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Reply #43 on: November 22, 2017, 08:37:45 pm
It's hard to say he wasn't successful in his tenure, but going 83-75 in A10 will leave a sour taste in your mouth.

I would have loved to have that 53% winning percentage in the multi-bid A10 after he was gone.  Bobby's fall started shortly after Moxley left for Maryland


Fixed - not saying CHP / Rose weren't also a driving force.


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Reply #44 on: November 23, 2017, 07:27:34 am
clt says price should get minutes, just not start.


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Reply #45 on: November 23, 2017, 08:51:45 am
clt says price should get minutes, just not start.
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