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ghostofclt

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on: November 24, 2017, 09:29:50 pm
we won!


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Reply #2 on: November 24, 2017, 09:57:40 pm
Have to give it to Hudson, he played big tonight ! Haslem started great and.looked like a basketball player.
Still don't understand why there was so much move early on the game, then the stadium around took over again???


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Reply #3 on: November 24, 2017, 09:59:39 pm
Have to give it to Hudson, he played big tonight ! Haslem started great and.looked like a basketball player.
Still don't understand why there was so much move early on the game, then the stadium around took over again???

Standing around, not stadium!


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Reply #4 on: November 24, 2017, 10:01:32 pm
We won.  ;D 54% FT shooting is unbelievable for a D1 team whose coach is MARK f***ing PRICE. Hell, d'son will shoot 3s better than that next week and hit a better percentage. I see d'son shooting at least 40 3s against us and hitting 55%.  >:(
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Reply #5 on: November 24, 2017, 10:05:37 pm
At least we now have a winning record....... sort of.
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Reply #6 on: November 24, 2017, 10:05:59 pm
We struggled.  We won.  I was there.
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Reply #7 on: November 24, 2017, 10:09:19 pm
Coach Price was in agony after each missed FT. Pretty funny actually.

I liked the ball movement out there after Davis went out. Garvin and the Serbs looked good out there. A lineup with the Serbs, Garvin and Price is a lot of height. Haslem and Garvin really took it to the rim.

Ajukwa fouled out in 9 minutes and White in 14.
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Reply #9 on: November 24, 2017, 10:24:49 pm
Its a win. They need to get the ball off a bit sooner. I wasn't thrilled with how close they had some shot clock violations.
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Reply #10 on: November 25, 2017, 04:23:12 am
3256 tonight....... Hmmm, really? 


Impressive considering that we had no more than 1200 in the seats against General Hospital on Monday night while school was still in session.



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Reply #11 on: November 25, 2017, 05:14:04 am
What on earth has happened to Austin Ajukwa? He looked really good last year. In fact he seemed like the best player on the team aside from Jon Davis. This year heís been non existent. Iíve never seen a player regress in one year as much as he has.
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Reply #12 on: November 25, 2017, 06:55:13 am
What on earth has happened to Austin Ajukwa? He looked really good last year. In fact he seemed like the best player on the team aside from Jon Davis. This year heís been non existent. Iíve never seen a player regress in one year as much as he has.


Braxton O and Derio Green are two that come to mind in their senior seasons.


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Reply #13 on: November 25, 2017, 07:46:33 am
     Couldn't help but noticing the 2 Serbs with Garvin creating substantially better ball movement.  They didn't always finish but you could really see the potential.  Price needs to give Haslem, Ajukwa, and White's minutes to the freshman including Thomas. As far as I'm concerned the Ajukwa White ship has sailed.  Haslem should get only spotty minutes against certain lineups. If he were a freshman it might be different but with only a year left we should give his minutes to Thomas who looks to have potential. Davis has to have the right pieces surrounding him which is sad but is reality.  I know this won't bode well with some of the veterans and could cause mutiny but at this point I don't care.  They've had their chances and now it's time for a change.  All in all it's tough decisions for coach but that's what he gets paid for. I've watched this program for 49 years and seen it all. Just my 2 cents.


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Reply #14 on: November 25, 2017, 08:46:36 am
What on earth has happened to Austin Ajukwa? He looked really good last year. In fact he seemed like the best player on the team aside from Jon Davis. This year heís been non existent. Iíve never seen a player regress in one year as much as he has.

I think he is the same player, but we have better players this year.  His defense is terrible as he over plays and can't stay in front of the ball.  His offense is now limited because Price can't trust him on the floor.  Everyone else is looking pretty good on the defensive end and that's where winning begins.


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Reply #15 on: November 25, 2017, 09:32:04 am
High Point was without a 18 PPG scorer (2nd on their team), we didn't score in the last 5 minutes, we went 0-4 free throws in the last minute of the game, and we won by 3 at home.  Don't see alot of positives here. 

Davis, Ajukwa, and White needed to pick up their games from last year.  As of now, they have regressed, though it is a small sample size.  Garvin and Hudson look better so far.  This isn't good enough, especially with our underwhelming recruiting. 

This board always thinks the freshman look good/have superior potential.  Then they become juniors and we think they stink.  Same stuff, different year. 


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Reply #16 on: November 25, 2017, 09:39:41 am
High Point was without a 18 PPG scorer (2nd on their team), we didn't score in the last 5 minutes, we went 0-4 free throws in the last minute of the game, and we won by 3 at home.  Don't see alot of positives here. 

Davis, Ajukwa, and White needed to pick up their games from last year.  As of now, they have regressed, though it is a small sample size.  Garvin and Hudson look better so far.  This isn't good enough, especially with our underwhelming recruiting. 

This board always thinks the freshman look good/have superior potential.  Then they become juniors and we think they stink.  Same stuff, different year.

When talking about regression look at the statistics.  White and Ajukwa are playing to a similar level as last season.  Davis is the one struggling with his FG% and 3pt%, but his assists are up.  I am ok with him scoring 4 ppg less if he doubles his assist total.  However, he needs to pull his shooting percentage up to where it was.  Therefore, he is struggling.  Too early to say that they have regressed.

Edit: Stats to back up Ajukwa and White.
Ajukwa is scoring 3.4 ppg less in almost 10 less minutes.  FG%, 3pt% and FT% are all up from last season.  Rebounds are way down, but expected as we have taller post players.
White is scoring 0.5 ppg less in almost 2 less minutes.  FG% is up while 3pt% and FT% are only down slightly.  Rebounds are the same, while TOs and assists are slightly higher.
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Reply #17 on: November 25, 2017, 09:50:32 am
High Point was without a 18 PPG scorer (2nd on their team), we didn't score in the last 5 minutes, we went 0-4 free throws in the last minute of the game, and we won by 3 at home.  Don't see alot of positives here. 

Davis, Ajukwa, and White needed to pick up their games from last year.  As of now, they have regressed, though it is a small sample size.  Garvin and Hudson look better so far.  This isn't good enough, especially with our underwhelming recruiting. 

This board always thinks the freshman look good/have superior potential.  Then they become juniors and we think they stink.  Same stuff, different year.

When talking about regression look at the statistics.  White and Ajukwa are playing to a similar level as last season.  Davis is the one struggling with his FG% and 3pt%, but his assists are up.  I am ok with him scoring 4 ppg less if he doubles his assist total.  However, he needs to pull his shooting percentage up to where it was.  Therefore, he is struggling.  Too early to say that they have regressed.

Edit: Stats to back up Ajukwa and White.
Ajukwa is scoring 3.4 ppg less in almost 10 less minutes.  FG%, 3pt% and FT% are all up from last season.  Rebounds are way down, but expected as we have taller post players.
White is scoring 0.5 ppg less in almost 2 less minutes.  FG% is up while 3pt% and FT% are only down slightly.  Rebounds are the same, while TOs and assists are slightly higher.

Stats lie.  Ajukwa is avging 5.5 ppg less than 2 rebs and .25 assist vs d1 competition.  He had a good game vs a non schollie team propping up his numbers.  He is playing less bc he is not playing well.

You may have a better point with white who is enigmatic at best.  I dont think 4.5 ppg vs presby and hpu are what we expect of him though.
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Reply #18 on: November 25, 2017, 10:01:31 am
Why did Davis sit out in the second half? Is he ok?


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Reply #19 on: November 25, 2017, 10:13:03 am
Why did Davis sit out in the second half? Is he ok?
looked like a really serious ankle injury. He could put no weight on it. We thought he was done for year the way he was rolling around in pain. He ended up coming back in late in the second half and looked fine.


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Reply #20 on: November 25, 2017, 10:14:58 am
Why did Davis sit out in the second half? Is he ok?
Hurt his ankle but was able to come back late in the in the game. Missed about a 10 minute stretch of action.


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Reply #21 on: November 25, 2017, 10:23:16 am
Last year Ajukwa was very effective when he was slashing to the basket, but this year the lane is much more crowded because we have big men in there, and the players defending our big men.  This crowded lane is causing him problems.
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Reply #22 on: November 25, 2017, 10:38:07 am
I still say Ajukwa's main issue is his defense.  He is a turn style out there.  Watch him on defense and you will see why Price can't have him on the floor.  Even if he hits 50% from the floor he is a liability giving away layups.  He lost his starting job and he is slowly losing his minutes. 


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Reply #23 on: November 25, 2017, 01:52:48 pm
Have to give it to Hudson, he played big tonight ! Haslem started great and.looked like a basketball player.
As Jobey Thomas and Coach Price both noted in their respective postgame comments, the only real criticism of Hudson's performance last night is that he passed up open looks in the waning minutes.

Definitely Haslem's best performance so far.


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Reply #24 on: November 25, 2017, 09:10:56 pm
clt would like to see jobey join our coaching staff. Class guy and he can show price how to shoot.


 

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