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Reply #1 on: December 17, 2013, 12:39:57 pm
 Is there "The rest of the story"?
 Graves spent three years on the BB team making satisfactory progress toward graduating, but three years later he's still working on a degree?  He's paying his rent for a $650K house with a job as part time video coordinator?
Why would the Orange county law want to search Roy Williams house? Were they tipped off about a couple of roaches and rushed over?
 No doubt the Charlotte Observer is on top of this story. Will we hear any more about it?
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Reply #2 on: December 17, 2013, 12:56:07 pm
Is there "The rest of the story"?
 Graves spent three years on the BB team making satisfactory progress toward graduating, but three years later he's still working on a degree?

He got kicked off the team reportedly for drugs, and it was not the first time he had a problem with this as he had been suspended before.  When basketball was no longer an option he left school.  Supposedly he got his act together and came back to finish up.  Apparently not.
 
He's paying his rent for a $650K house with a job as part time video coordinator?

I wondered the same thing.  Typically you charge 1% of the home value for rent which puts it at about $6500/month.  No way he could pay for that.  If this was not a pure business deal for Roy then I wonder why he would provide his house at less than market rate to someone he knows has a long history of recreational drug use and making bad decisions.
 
Why does Roy own a $650,000 house that sits around empty waiting on Snoop Dogg to need it?  I would love to know how many members of the current team have been hanging out over there?
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Reply #3 on: December 17, 2013, 04:08:28 pm
At much as it pains me to defend Roy Williams, it sounds like he was letting Graves stay there to try and help get his life in order.  Sounds like he has the house for situations like there. 
 
 


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Reply #4 on: December 17, 2013, 04:11:17 pm
At much as it pains me to defend Roy Williams, it sounds like he was letting Graves stay there to try and help get his life in order.  Sounds like he has the house for situations like there.

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Reply #5 on: December 17, 2013, 05:21:36 pm
Powerbait it's a conflict of interest for Roy to rent to a player.  He would be tempted to rent at reduced or no rent, which would be a Ncaa violation.
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Reply #6 on: December 17, 2013, 05:22:40 pm
Powerbait it's a conflict of interest for Roy to rent to a player.  He would be tempted to rent at reduced or no rent, which would be a Ncaa violation.

Graves isn't a player.  Thanks for that insight though.


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Reply #7 on: December 17, 2013, 06:23:53 pm
clt says that good ol Roy let the ex player/ dope connoisseur stay to continue his matriculation at UNC-CHeat. Why? They need him to graduate for APR standards.




http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?id=2623115





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Reply #8 on: December 17, 2013, 09:29:21 pm
Powerbait it's a conflict of interest for Roy to rent to a player.  He would be tempted to rent at reduced or no rent, which would be a Ncaa violation.


This seems to bear that out:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?id=2623115


"The NCAA report said other boosters gave graduation gifts to outgoing players, a fact that individuals within the athletic department were aware of, including former basketball coach Roy Williams."

It certainly doesn't seem that a coach should be renting to a former player still in school. But I feel sure Gov. Martin can explain it.
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Reply #9 on: December 19, 2013, 08:26:52 pm
So how many other coaches give housing or education hook ups to inflate the APR after UConn didn't make the tourney last year, or is Roy the only one who noticed former players don't have NCAA rules governing them?  Maybe the NCAA should pass a new rule this summer that all NCAA rules for players cover former players enrolled in classes for your APR.  Of course everytime they investigage UNC-CH they find nothing, so it wouldn't matter if they passed a rule.
CHP sold out.  I declare Nick McEntyre our Chancellor-In-Exile!

JFelt quote about CHP.  "Stake your claim.  As long as UNC-CH doesn't want it first."

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Reply #10 on: January 07, 2014, 04:56:31 pm


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Reply #11 on: January 07, 2014, 06:30:54 pm
clt provides more UNC CHeat scandal: http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/07/college-athletes-who-read-at-5th-grade-level/

Hater!  You should have more respect for the fagship university.


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Reply #13 on: January 07, 2014, 11:31:55 pm
Nobody





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Just win


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Reply #14 on: January 08, 2014, 07:11:29 am
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Just win


Some of us non-mouth breathers do care. It's college, not pro sports.
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Reply #15 on: January 08, 2014, 08:26:10 am
From the full article:
When Willingham worked as a learning specialist for athletes from 2003 to 2010, she admits she took part in cheating, signing her name to forms that said she witnessed no NCAA rules violations when in fact she did. But the NCAA, the college sports organizing body, never interviewed her. Instead, it found no rules had been broken at Chapel Hill.

The whitewash of UNC-CHeat is of epic proportions, but I think the paint is beginning to peel off.  Its times like these that I wish the UNC was removed from Charlotte most. :(


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Reply #16 on: January 08, 2014, 08:51:51 am
Nobody





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All 3 of you. 


Some of us non-mouth breathers do care. It's college, not pro sports.


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Reply #17 on: January 08, 2014, 08:55:18 am
I care.
This signature is small because I'm not a jerk.

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Reply #18 on: January 08, 2014, 08:59:03 am
Nobody





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We care at Charlotte.


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Reply #19 on: January 08, 2014, 09:10:17 am
Nobody





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Just win

All 3 of you. 


Some of us non-mouth breathers do care. It's college, not pro sports.

Card,  I assume if you are posting on this board, you are a fan of this University, and we dont have many casual fans.  If you're a fan of Charlotte, you are probably also a student or alumnus of UNC Charlotte.  So for that, thanks for joining and participating on the board.  I hope that you have enough pride that you want the student athletes representing in your university to be strong academic achievers.

You say "Just Win", and we all want Charlotte to do that, but our University faces a constant uphill battle in fighting for and winning recruits against power schools such as UNC-CH, NCSU, Louisville, ect.  It appears that Charlotte has always tried to run a clean athletic program and hold it's players to high standards.  It's hard to "Just Win" when other universities are taking their pick of better athletes and cheating to keep them academically eligible when we are trying to follow the rules.

Im sorry, but my view is that if a 5 star ranked HS basketball player cant read at a 3rd grade level, then he shouldnt be allowed to compete against us at XYZ University - or at any university at all. 

There are more than three of us who care.  Based on the comments section of the full CNN page, at least over 4,900 cared enough to log on and post about it.

Plus, anything that helps remove the myth of the "prestigious Carolina Way" is enough in it's own right to make me care.
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Reply #20 on: January 08, 2014, 09:53:47 am
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Troll elsewhere, please.


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Reply #21 on: January 08, 2014, 10:06:18 am
Cover Page of CNN.Com is a story about college athletes who can barely read. Click it and the first univeristy they mention is Chapel Hill. We need to disaffiliate.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/07/us/ncaa-athletes-reading-scores/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


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Reply #22 on: January 08, 2014, 10:17:46 am
As someone who has had classes in the past with multiple players, I can attest that we are in no position to cast judgement on other institutions for the preferential academic treament of athletes.
 
It's a problem, it's everywhere, and it needs to be addressed.


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Reply #23 on: January 08, 2014, 11:00:01 am
I dont doubt we have athletes that have trouble, AMH,  I am sure every D1 college does.  But there is a difference between providing preferential treatment, ie. providing personal tutors and an academic assistance program, and a university that creates no show classes awarding almost exclusive "A" grades for the apparent sole purpose of boosting student athletes GPA's to the minimum NCAA requirements. 

I think that we do everything we can WITHIN the NCAA rules to help athletes.  I'm OK with that.  Give these kids, often from disadvantaged areas, the tools they need to succeed in college and life after their athletic careers.  But I don't want to be the next university cited for tutors writing term papers for students though.

You are right, it's a real problem that needs to be addressed, but I think part of what is broken exists before a kid ever steps foot on a university campus.  Now universities certainly have become the enablers of the system.  In a perfect world, kids in middle and high school would realize that regardless of their athletic talents, if they cant legitimately read and graduate, they will not be playing at a university.  I am afraid that it is a pipe dream though - the moneys at large universities and prep schools will always find a way to hide a student's poor academic skills if it gets them on the court/ field.
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Reply #24 on: January 08, 2014, 11:27:22 am
clt says we run a clean program and we will run a clean  program.


 

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