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Reply #25 on: April 17, 2017, 01:09:40 pm
Most of you are such whipped dogs that I'm surprised you aren't already lamenting that we didn't just join the Big South in all sports years ago when we had the chance.

Way to let Judy et al off the hook. #managedexpectations

I hope this happens so I finally have the reason I need to cut ties with the program. You guys can enjoy your "DII" program along with all the media members, BOG members, and fans of other programs who have done everything in their power for decades to put us there. You all win. Congrats. And thanks for making everything the diehard fans did for decades before you mean absolutely nothing.
I'm assuming your issue is the Sun Belt Schools.


From CLT's link, of the 10 schools listed, 3 of them have budgets higher than ours.  The next 4 (coast carolina is from FCS budget of 2015) are within 3 million.

If Charlotte were in a conference with the other 10 schools, it would have the second highest subsidy in the conference, and at 79.21% of the expenses would be the 3rd most reliant on subsidies.


We would have the smallest football stadium by nearly 5000 seats, smaller than CCU and Georgia State.  And the average stadium size in that conference, 29385, would be nearly double ours.


We would have only the 4th largest basketball arena.  The average arena for that conference  (10 other teams) would be 7629.




I don't get the negativity towards this conference really.  It's who we are now.  The cool kids moved on.  They've actually found some more attractive partners than us too. 


All we have over these teams is a big city we share a name with but don't capitalize on and we got some tournament invites 15 years ago.  Please clap.


All of that is true - but if that is where we happily accept our position then I am done. 
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Reply #26 on: April 17, 2017, 01:18:37 pm
If Charlotte were in a conference with the other 10 schools, it would have the second highest subsidy in the conference, and at 79.21% of the expenses would be the 3rd most reliant on subsidies.

Just one note, some states fund their athletics programs, but NC does not.  This may lead to our having higher student fees, but instead of putting those tax dollars onto the field we put them into the classroom leading to lower in-state tuitions.  For the student, it probably all washes out.
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Reply #27 on: April 17, 2017, 01:42:06 pm
Most of you are such whipped dogs that I'm surprised you aren't already lamenting that we didn't just join the Big South in all sports years ago when we had the chance.

Way to let Judy et al off the hook. #managedexpectations

I hope this happens so I finally have the reason I need to cut ties with the program. You guys can enjoy your "DII" program along with all the media members, BOG members, and fans of other programs who have done everything in their power for decades to put us there. You all win. Congrats. And thanks for making everything the diehard fans did for decades before you mean absolutely nothing.
I'm assuming your issue is the Sun Belt Schools.


From CLT's link, of the 10 schools listed, 3 of them have budgets higher than ours.  The next 4 (coast carolina is from FCS budget of 2015) are within 3 million.

If Charlotte were in a conference with the other 10 schools, it would have the second highest subsidy in the conference, and at 79.21% of the expenses would be the 3rd most reliant on subsidies.


We would have the smallest football stadium by nearly 5000 seats, smaller than CCU and Georgia State.  And the average stadium size in that conference, 29385, would be nearly double ours.


We would have only the 4th largest basketball arena.  The average arena for that conference  (10 other teams) would be 7629.




I don't get the negativity towards this conference really.  It's who we are now.  The cool kids moved on.  They've actually found some more attractive partners than us too. 


All we have over these teams is a big city we share a name with but don't capitalize on and we got some tournament invites 15 years ago.  Please clap.


All of that is true - but if that is where we happily accept our position then I am done.

Well said.


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Reply #28 on: April 17, 2017, 01:44:37 pm
Most of you are such whipped dogs that I'm surprised you aren't already lamenting that we didn't just join the Big South in all sports years ago when we had the chance.

Way to let Judy et al off the hook. #managedexpectations

I hope this happens so I finally have the reason I need to cut ties with the program. You guys can enjoy your "DII" program along with all the media members, BOG members, and fans of other programs who have done everything in their power for decades to put us there. You all win. Congrats. And thanks for making everything the diehard fans did for decades before you mean absolutely nothing.
I'm assuming your issue is the Sun Belt Schools.


From CLT's link, of the 10 schools listed, 3 of them have budgets higher than ours.  The next 4 (coast carolina is from FCS budget of 2015) are within 3 million.

If Charlotte were in a conference with the other 10 schools, it would have the second highest subsidy in the conference, and at 79.21% of the expenses would be the 3rd most reliant on subsidies.


We would have the smallest football stadium by nearly 5000 seats, smaller than CCU and Georgia State.  And the average stadium size in that conference, 29385, would be nearly double ours.


We would have only the 4th largest basketball arena.  The average arena for that conference  (10 other teams) would be 7629.




I don't get the negativity towards this conference really.  It's who we are now.  The cool kids moved on.  They've actually found some more attractive partners than us too. 


All we have over these teams is a big city we share a name with but don't capitalize on and we got some tournament invites 15 years ago.  Please clap.


All of that is true - but if that is where we happily accept our position then I am done.

Well said.
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Reply #29 on: April 17, 2017, 01:44:47 pm
I wouldn't be opposed if we use this as a 1st move and we potentially move on from that in a few years.  Beats the hell out of the position we are in now.  At least we could possibly have a few rivals and be able to make some away games.
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Reply #30 on: April 17, 2017, 02:29:36 pm
Most of you are such whipped dogs that I'm surprised you aren't already lamenting that we didn't just join the Big South in all sports years ago when we had the chance.

Way to let Judy et al off the hook. #managedexpectations

I hope this happens so I finally have the reason I need to cut ties with the program. You guys can enjoy your "DII" program along with all the media members, BOG members, and fans of other programs who have done everything in their power for decades to put us there. You all win. Congrats. And thanks for making everything the diehard fans did for decades before you mean absolutely nothing.

If I had to take a guess I would sooner expect UTEP and UTSA to leave for the MWC before any of these "inevitable" realignment scenarios ever occur.  And then CUSA would probably focus on expanding with a focus on eastern schools to cut down some of the whining.
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Reply #31 on: April 17, 2017, 03:32:15 pm
We have (4) games that are within driving distance in the East.

Marshall and ODU @5 hours
MT and WKU @7 hours

Those are long drives but still doable. Also it may be my background coming from SEC country but Southern Miss and Marshall are respected football programs, superior to anything the SBC has to offer. Any SEC fan in the 90s and 2000s who said they weren't worried playing them was either ignorant or being full of bluster.

La Tech I can remember them hosting A&M when they had Manziel and pushing them to the brink, and WKU has become a perennial powerhouse through multiple coaching changes.

The F()Us made major coaching hires and I look forward to giving Kiffdaddy and Butch multiple Ls.

There is still a perception gap, CUSA is a step up from The Belt in the minds of most college football fans.

I want us to keep moving forward but if an invite to the AAC isn't pending I want to see if CUSA can develop before associating with the SBC. I'd love to play App, CCU, Georgia St, and Georgia Southern in non-conference games, and it would be nice if one of our two G5 games always include one from this group. It's not catastrophic if we realign with the SBC, but I believe the potential with CUSA is higher.
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Reply #32 on: April 17, 2017, 03:53:03 pm
There is still a perception gap, CUSA is a step up from The Belt in the minds of most college football fans.

I want us to keep moving forward but if an invite to the AAC isn't pending I want to see if CUSA can develop before associating with the SBC. I'd love to play App, CCU, Georgia St, and Georgia Southern in non-conference games, and it would be nice if one of our two G5 games always include one from this group. It's not catastrophic if we realign with the SBC, but I believe the potential with CUSA is higher.

What none of you who are against this seem to comprehend is that this doesn't mean we leave CUSA for the Sun Belt. This is essentially a new conference or a merger.

This is so completely theoretical that I don't see how you can be against all possible forms of a CUSA/Sun Belt realignment. Do you really think the current CUSA is better than a conference with App, Coastal, Marshall, MTSU, ODU, GA Southern? If nothing else, it's a wash and we would be playing closer teams and saving money on travel.

Also, I have no idea why you are all panicking like moving to a regional conference suddenly means we lose any chance at ever possibly moving up. If we are good enough then we can move.


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Reply #33 on: April 17, 2017, 04:37:38 pm
clt bets some of you just want the CCU cheerleaders to come to the rich.


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Reply #34 on: April 17, 2017, 05:11:53 pm
no. just no.


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Reply #35 on: April 17, 2017, 05:17:32 pm
There is still a perception gap, CUSA is a step up from The Belt in the minds of most college football fans.

I want us to keep moving forward but if an invite to the AAC isn't pending I want to see if CUSA can develop before associating with the SBC. I'd love to play App, CCU, Georgia St, and Georgia Southern in non-conference games, and it would be nice if one of our two G5 games always include one from this group. It's not catastrophic if we realign with the SBC, but I believe the potential with CUSA is higher.

What none of you who are against this seem to comprehend is that this doesn't mean we leave CUSA for the Sun Belt.

No, I'm pretty sure everyone does comprehend that.  I'm not sure how long you've followed college sports but Southern Miss, UAB, and UTEP have a much better reputation than GA State, Arkansas State, and even App State.  So do we.

With that said, I have nothing against a football game or baseball series at CCU, or a football game in Boone.
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Reply #36 on: April 17, 2017, 05:24:52 pm
Most of you are such whipped dogs that I'm surprised you aren't already lamenting that we didn't just join the Big South in all sports years ago when we had the chance.

Way to let Judy et al off the hook. #managedexpectations

I hope this happens so I finally have the reason I need to cut ties with the program. You guys can enjoy your "DII" program along with all the media members, BOG members, and fans of other programs who have done everything in their power for decades to put us there. You all win. Congrats. And thanks for making everything the diehard fans did for decades before you mean absolutely nothing.

I agree 100 percent.  Well said.
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