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Offline charlotteguy88

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Conference affiliation
« on: September 23, 2010, 02:25:52 pm »
We either fast track to FBS or the football team is headed for the Ohio Valley Conference...The SOCON want take just football, I know someone that works for the Big South and they want nothing to do with us and the CAA wont except just one team because they have an even 12 (or will when ODU and Ga State get there)  So the only geographicaly logical FCS conference left for us is OVC.  I am extremely happy we hve football but we either go FBS quick or we are gonna be in quite a pickle.  To be honest I believe we will be Big East or CUSA by 2020 and if not I see no possible way this school lives up to its potential.  Football in the OVC and all other sports in the A10 just isn't gonna cut it.  Our only other options are to start our own FBS conference.  Jacksonville State, Georgia Southern, Liberty and James Madison have all discussed moving up and all but GSU are expanding their stadiums. New Conference: Charlotte, Temple, Memphis, UCF, Ga Southern, JSU, Liberty, JMU, UAB, Southern Miss, Ohio, ODU, Richmond (no football), Xavier, Dayton, George Mason.....Lol highly unlikely but id be okay with that conference, solid for all sports.  Our last resort is pray JMU moves up so we can take their CAA spot.  Not trying to be negative but I know how college athletics work..........on a side note for those that want to change from UNCC to U of C, thatll cost the school about a million dollars at minimum to do so, so how bout we wait until football starts bringing in money first.

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Re: Conference affiliation
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 02:44:31 pm »
CAA membership structure in football is somewhat fluid. Hofstra and Northwestern killed football on rapid decisions just 10 months ago. ODU and Georgia St. are moving in next year and the year after. Rhode Island may go to the NEC and who knows what Maine and New Hapshire do if that happens. Fellow A10 member Fordham is looking at going full scholarship and will want in the CAA. Most of the A10 schools and southern CAA football teams will want us. Also, if we made a long term commitment to FCS, the Big South will jump us in a heart beat.

But obviously I'd rather be in the Big East or even CUSA playing top level college football.

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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010, 02:55:54 pm »
My gut tells me we are destined for C-USA if things don't change drastically.
 
That's a mighty big IF though.
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Re: Conference affiliation
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2010, 03:02:08 pm »
My gut tells me we are destined for C-USA if things don't change drastically.
 
That's a mighty big IF though.

We have to get back on CUSA's radar first. 3 or 4 A10 basketball titles, 2 or 3 2nd/3rd round NCAA apperances and a stadium expansion with butts to fill it would do that. Also would help if their membership became fluid again.

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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2010, 03:02:51 pm »
ECU does fairly well in CUSA.  It's not the sexy destination, like the Big East, but there is nothing wrong with being in CUSA for our athletic programs.

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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 03:03:41 pm »
We either fast track to FBS or the football team is headed for the Ohio Valley Conference...The SOCON want take just football, I know someone that works for the Big South and they want nothing to do with us and the CAA wont except just one team because they have an even 12 (or will when ODU and Ga State get there)  So the only geographicaly logical FCS conference left for us is OVC.  I am extremely happy we hve football but we either go FBS quick or we are gonna be in quite a pickle.  To be honest I believe we will be Big East or CUSA by 2020 and if not I see no possible way this school lives up to its potential.  Football in the OVC and all other sports in the A10 just isn't gonna cut it.  Our only other options are to start our own FBS conference.  Jacksonville State, Georgia Southern, Liberty and James Madison have all discussed moving up and all but GSU are expanding their stadiums. New Conference: Charlotte, Temple, Memphis, UCF, Ga Southern, JSU, Liberty, JMU, UAB, Southern Miss, Ohio, ODU, Richmond (no football), Xavier, Dayton, George Mason.....Lol highly unlikely but id be okay with that conference, solid for all sports.  Our last resort is pray JMU moves up so we can take their CAA spot.  Not trying to be negative but I know how college athletics work..........on a side note for those that want to change from UNCC to U of C, thatll cost the school about a million dollars at minimum to do so, so how bout we wait until football starts bringing in money first.

Sorry, but I'm not believing that. I think the Big South would $hit a brick if they could get us in their league for ANY sport although I do NOT want us in that league for anything. I'd rather go indy and I think thats what we'll do, atleast initially. Also, I definitely think you're wrong on the CAA. Its been noted several times that Judy and the CAA Commish have had some very "early" discussions. I know they've said the talks were informal but thats always what they say.

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Re: Conference affiliation
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 04:17:14 pm »
We either fast track to FBS or the football team is headed for the Ohio Valley Conference...The SOCON want take just football, I know someone that works for the Big South and they want nothing to do with us and the CAA wont except just one team because they have an even 12 (or will when ODU and Ga State get there)  So the only geographicaly logical FCS conference left for us is OVC.  I am extremely happy we hve football but we either go FBS quick or we are gonna be in quite a pickle.  To be honest I believe we will be Big East or CUSA by 2020 and if not I see no possible way this school lives up to its potential.  Football in the OVC and all other sports in the A10 just isn't gonna cut it.  Our only other options are to start our own FBS conference.  Jacksonville State, Georgia Southern, Liberty and James Madison have all discussed moving up and all but GSU are expanding their stadiums. New Conference: Charlotte, Temple, Memphis, UCF, Ga Southern, JSU, Liberty, JMU, UAB, Southern Miss, Ohio, ODU, Richmond (no football), Xavier, Dayton, George Mason.....Lol highly unlikely but id be okay with that conference, solid for all sports.  Our last resort is pray JMU moves up so we can take their CAA spot.  Not trying to be negative but I know how college athletics work..........on a side note for those that want to change from UNCC to U of C, thatll cost the school about a million dollars at minimum to do so, so how bout we wait until football starts bringing in money first.

Sorry, but I'm not believing that. I think the Big South would $hit a brick if they could get us in their league for ANY sport although I do NOT want us in that league for anything. I'd rather go indy and I think thats what we'll do, atleast initially. Also, I definitely think you're wrong on the CAA. Its been noted several times that Judy and the CAA Commish have had some very "early" discussions. I know they've said the talks were informal but thats always what they say.
Youre right about CAA, to clarify I was meaning I dont see us joining without someone else joining with us or someone leaving the CAA.  I dont see the CAA having 13 teams, someone has to go or someone has to come with us.  Which is possible but Im not holding my breath for that to happen.  If the Big East is smart theyll take us for the Charlotte market...BCS is all about money.  And to keep up the Big East is gonna need 12 football teams and a tittle game.

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Re: Conference affiliation
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 05:22:34 pm »
ECU does fairly well in CUSA.  It's not the sexy destination, like the Big East, but there is nothing wrong with being in CUSA for our athletic programs.

Yeah there is. It sucks balls for hoops. It's a shadow of its former self and is still far flung with no good rivalries. I do not want in CUSA for hoops. No way.
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Re: Conference affiliation
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010, 05:28:41 pm »
ECU does fairly well in CUSA.  It's not the sexy destination, like the Big East, but there is nothing wrong with being in CUSA for our athletic programs.

Yeah there is. It sucks balls for hoops. It's a shadow of its former self and is still far flung with no good rivalries. I do not want in CUSA for hoops. No way.

We may have that option at the FCS level. We may even get away with that with the Sun Belt, but if CUSA calls us back Judy will take ALL our sports there.

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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2010, 06:03:09 pm »
ECU does fairly well in CUSA.  It's not the sexy destination, like the Big East, but there is nothing wrong with being in CUSA for our athletic programs.

Yeah there is. It sucks balls for hoops. It's a shadow of its former self and is still far flung with no good rivalries. I do not want in CUSA for hoops. No way.

We may have that option at the FCS level. We may even get away with that with the Sun Belt, but if CUSA calls us back Judy will take ALL our sports there.


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Re: Conference affiliation
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2010, 06:06:32 pm »
ECU does fairly well in CUSA.  It's not the sexy destination, like the Big East, but there is nothing wrong with being in CUSA for our athletic programs.

Yeah there is. It sucks balls for hoops. It's a shadow of its former self and is still far flung with no good rivalries. I do not want in CUSA for hoops. No way.

We may have that option at the FCS level. We may even get away with that with the Sun Belt, but if CUSA calls us back Judy will take ALL our sports there.


I believe this as well.

Its not even an option. They call we go.

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2010, 06:39:18 pm »
Memphis, Houston, UAB, Utep, & Tulsa are good in hoops.  USM & Tulane are down, but can improve.  Marshall made a good run last year.  I'll go back to Cusa in all.  I never wanted to leave.
 
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Re: Conference affiliation
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2010, 08:35:08 pm »
ECU does fairly well in CUSA.  It's not the sexy destination, like the Big East, but there is nothing wrong with being in CUSA for our athletic programs.

Yeah there is. It sucks balls for hoops. It's a shadow of its former self and is still far flung with no good rivalries. I do not want in CUSA for hoops. No way.

We may have that option at the FCS level. We may even get away with that with the Sun Belt, but if CUSA calls us back Judy will take ALL our sports there.


I believe this as well.

Its not even an option. They call we go.

No. Judy will not compromise basketball for football, no matter how badly you want to.
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Re: Conference affiliation
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2010, 08:37:34 pm »
ECU does fairly well in CUSA.  It's not the sexy destination, like the Big East, but there is nothing wrong with being in CUSA for our athletic programs.

Yeah there is. It sucks balls for hoops. It's a shadow of its former self and is still far flung with no good rivalries. I do not want in CUSA for hoops. No way.

We may have that option at the FCS level. We may even get away with that with the Sun Belt, but if CUSA calls us back Judy will take ALL our sports there.


I believe this as well.

Its not even an option. They call we go.

No. Judy will not compromise basketball for football, no matter how badly you want to.

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Re: Conference affiliation
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2010, 08:50:08 pm »
ECU does fairly well in CUSA.  It's not the sexy destination, like the Big East, but there is nothing wrong with being in CUSA for our athletic programs.

Yeah there is. It sucks balls for hoops. It's a shadow of its former self and is still far flung with no good rivalries. I do not want in CUSA for hoops. No way.

We may have that option at the FCS level. We may even get away with that with the Sun Belt, but if CUSA calls us back Judy will take ALL our sports there.


I believe this as well.

Its not even an option. They call we go.

No. Judy will not compromise basketball for football, no matter how badly you want to.
I think she will.


We aren't looking to build a 40k seat stadium, have 65 scholarships and equivalent women's sports for football to play second fiddle.
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Re: Conference affiliation
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2010, 08:53:15 pm »
ECU does fairly well in CUSA.  It's not the sexy destination, like the Big East, but there is nothing wrong with being in CUSA for our athletic programs.

Yeah there is. It sucks balls for hoops. It's a shadow of its former self and is still far flung with no good rivalries. I do not want in CUSA for hoops. No way.

We may have that option at the FCS level. We may even get away with that with the Sun Belt, but if CUSA calls us back Judy will take ALL our sports there.


I believe this as well.

Its not even an option. They call we go.

No. Judy will not compromise basketball for football, no matter how badly you want to.
I think she will.


We aren't looking to build a 40k seat stadium, have 65 scholarships and equivalent women's sports for football to play second fiddle.

If half your athletics department money goes to 1 sport, guess which sport "calls the tune", and that's even at FCS level!

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2010, 08:53:27 pm »
I agree.  We would compromise basketball in a heartbeat to get into a legit football conference, especially since you don't have to be in a good conference to be good in basketball.
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2010, 09:10:56 pm »
clt says that we need to get where memphis is now in cusa and then impress the big east.
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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2010, 09:17:57 pm »
I would take a C-USA invite today.

Is it a step down in hoops?  Yes, it is.  However, in the public perception it is a step up.  East Carolina, Marshall, UCF, Southern Miss, and Memphis are much more identifiable names to this area than Saint Joseph's, Xavier, Temple, and Dayton.

The main reason, however, is because a C-USA invite today means that we have an FBS home when we want it.  We don't have to wait around to find a conference, it is already taken care of.

The A10 is the best possible conference for our basketball program, but every other program suffers for it... especially baseball.
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2010, 09:18:53 pm »
Memphis seems to have success with basketball in CUSA. No reason we can't as "successful" as they have been. Maybe we can do it without cheating.

Plus it would be nice to beat them on a consistent basis.

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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2010, 09:35:13 pm »
Judy has said repeatedly that she will not compromise basketball for football, your wishes notwithstanding.
 
It's a shithole conference. There's no defending it. It's even worse than when we were in it last time, and that's all anyone did back then was complain about it.
 
Too many of you thata re saying you'd take a bid weren't around back then. I'm not talking about 2004. I'm talking about the late 90s. It wasn't a good league then and it's much worse now and the only way Memphis succeeded was with John f***ing cheating bastard calimari.
 
 
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2010, 09:40:52 pm »
Judy has said repeatedly that she will not compromise basketball for football, your wishes notwithstanding.
 
It's a shithole conference. There's no defending it. It's even worse than when we were in it last time, and that's all anyone did back then was complain about it.
 
Too many of you thata re saying you'd take a bid weren't around back then. I'm not talking about 2004. I'm talking about the late 90s. It wasn't a good league then and it's much worse now and the only way Memphis succeeded was with John f***ing cheating bastard calimari.

So, you're basically saying you want to remain FCS forever?
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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2010, 09:43:43 pm »
East Carolina, Marshall, UCF, Southern Miss, and Memphis are much more identifiable names to this area than Saint Joseph's, Xavier, Temple, and Dayton.

You aint followed college basketball very long have you?  Saint Joe Xavier Temple and Dayton are a hole lot more known than ECU Marshall UCF and USM.  Not as much as my UNC Heels tho.

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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2010, 09:46:41 pm »
Judy has said repeatedly that she will not compromise basketball for football, your wishes notwithstanding.
 
It's a shithole conference. There's no defending it. It's even worse than when we were in it last time, and that's all anyone did back then was complain about it.
 
Too many of you thata re saying you'd take a bid weren't around back then. I'm not talking about 2004. I'm talking about the late 90s. It wasn't a good league then and it's much worse now and the only way Memphis succeeded was with John f***ing cheating bastard calimari.

Is this a joke?.......I disagree with you completely and I've been "around" since the early 80s.

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