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Re: CUSA/MWC Merger or Alliance Scenarios.
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2012, 01:17:35 pm »
I would argue boone has enough hotels etc. in the surrounding areas... I mean, Blowing Rock is a pretty hot spot, as are the ski resorts during the tourism season... they put those people somewhere. That said, I don't think they'll have 50-60k seats up there anytime soon. Add a few thousand people to games (including those who would be from day-trip driving distance like a Charlotte or ECU) and it would be fine.


As much as I used to subscribe to Boone's lack-of-transportation I would say that it isn't that big of a deal... Teams get up there to play somehow already... And you're right, there are much worse FBS situations out there. They have a 4-lane major highway up there in US421. I've spent many weekends of my life up there with family, I know for a fact that they understand the concept of "snow control", especially on those major highways. Just watch out for the state troopers  :)

I had a nice response all written out, but now it's all for naught.

As for attendance, we averaged 23K in 2006 and 22K in 2005. Our current administration came in 2005 and replaced folks who couldn't give a crap about football and just cared about spending as little money as possible. Even then, we averaged 16K before any National Championship.

On top of this, we use the Tri-Cities Airport, which is 60-75 minutes away.

We're not planning to go to 50-60K anytime soon. Our current goal is to get to 30K seats. With the hill/SRO, that would mean 40K capacity.

Also, the 321 widening project is finally done. And to celebrate going from two lanes to four lanes, they lowered the speed limit.  :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: February 19, 2012, 01:20:09 pm by T-Dog »
ASU is in the same media market as Charlotte.

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Re: CUSA/MWC Merger or Alliance Scenarios.
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2012, 01:32:30 pm »
I would argue boone has enough hotels etc. in the surrounding areas... I mean, Blowing Rock is a pretty hot spot, as are the ski resorts during the tourism season... they put those people somewhere. That said, I don't think they'll have 50-60k seats up there anytime soon. Add a few thousand people to games (including those who would be from day-trip driving distance like a Charlotte or ECU) and it would be fine.


As much as I used to subscribe to Boone's lack-of-transportation I would say that it isn't that big of a deal... Teams get up there to play somehow already... And you're right, there are much worse FBS situations out there. They have a 4-lane major highway up there in US421. I've spent many weekends of my life up there with family, I know for a fact that they understand the concept of "snow control", especially on those major highways. Just watch out for the state troopers  :)

I had a nice response all written out, but now it's all for naught.

As for attendance, we averaged 23K in 2006 and 22K in 2005. Our current administration came in 2005 and replaced folks who couldn't give a crap about football and just cared about spending as little money as possible. Even then, we averaged 16K before any National Championship.

On top of this, we use the Tri-Cities Airport, which is 60-75 minutes away.

We're not planning to go to 50-60K anytime soon. Our current goal is to get to 30K seats. With the hill/SRO, that would mean 40K capacity.

Also, the 321 widening project is finally done. And to celebrate going from two lanes to four lanes, they lowered the speed limit..  ::)
:))  Why doesn't that surprise me?


I agree though, I think Boone is fine for FBS. If Boone were in Cullowhee it'd be a different story.

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Re: CUSA/MWC Merger or Alliance Scenarios.
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2012, 01:42:11 pm »
link=topic=30237.msg541560#msg541560 date=1329673606]On top of this, we use the Tri-Cities Airport, which is 60-75 minutes away.

Good point.  I think they doubled the capacity of that airport a few years ago.  From 2 gates to 4 gates.  Yes, I'm kidding about the number of gates but my point is that airport still has a very limited number of flights and in bad weather it can be a treachorous drive. 
 
I have no objections to App State following us to the new conference but I do think some App State fans value their FCS football championships more than they should.  App has no success in any of the other sports on a major college level and will drag down the basketball almost as much as ECU. 
 
 

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Re: CUSA/MWC Merger or Alliance Scenarios.
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2012, 01:42:39 pm »
Temple could be going to the Big East
http://articles.philly.com/2012-02-15/sports/31063634_1_john-marinatto-big-east-football-only-member

Seems like Big East is picking off most of the top tier markets from this "Alliance".


They could go - but word was Nova was fighting adding them.


Hmmm...and we have some that want to be in a conference with App.

I think Normmm was probably right all along, we'll be really good next year.

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Re: CUSA/MWC Merger or Alliance Scenarios.
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2012, 01:51:27 pm »
Hmmm...and we have some that want to be in a conference with App.

Makes no sense to me.  I'll take them because they are in state but I feel we can do much better.  I have to keep telling myself App is taking a step up because they have always been considered the inferior school. 
 

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Re: CUSA/MWC Merger or Alliance Scenarios.
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2012, 01:53:18 pm »
Their location is not ready. Boone is not ready for FBS level football in roads, airports, hotels, restaurants, ect.; and one has to wonder if 29,000 will still come out to see them lose half their home games. App was averaging 15,000 people at home games before 2007.

Complete bullshit on every account.


Boone is not ready for any more people.  Hell as it is gamedays up there run the town to a stand still.  My wife grew up there and locals hate gamedays because the town just can't handle any more people.  As for the number of people at games - I don't know the numbers but mid 90s saw the stadium with plenty of open seats and my friends that went to app joking about app football.  Winning big is a major cure all. 


And I stand my statements about other facilities.  We have spent a crazy amount on money on our other sports.  I thought it was insane at the time - but perhaps it was all part of a master plan.


With all that said - App and ECU are not our true enemies.  We all fight the same fights and I think that App, ECU and us in the same conference will make Chapel Hill and the boys a little nervous.
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Re: CUSA/MWC Merger or Alliance Scenarios.
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2012, 02:45:51 pm »

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Re: CUSA/MWC Merger or Alliance Scenarios.
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2012, 02:56:30 pm »
As for attendance, we averaged 23K in 2006 and 22K in 2005.
2005
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/Attendance/2005.pdf
17,917


2006

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/Attendance/2006.pdf
20,546

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/!ut/p/c4/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gjX29XJydDRwP_wGBDA08Df3Nzd1dXQwMDA_2CbEdFALxFcuk!/?WCM_PORTLET=PC_7_2MKEBB1A0OQS10I0O77GEE10G3000000_WCM&WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/stats/football/attendance/index.html

2011 - 26,211
2010 - 25,715
2009 - 24,004
2008 - 25,161
2007 - 24,218
2006 - 20,546
2005 - 17,917
2004 - no individual figures
2003 - 14,661
2002 - 12,586
2001 - 10,030
2000 - 13,016
1999 - 18,355
1998 - 14,916
1997 - 12,264


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Re: CUSA/MWC Merger or Alliance Scenarios.
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2012, 03:15:59 pm »
I looked back at my figured and they were regular season only. Some of those pre-2005 years had playoff games with less than 5K reported so those hurt figures. Since the NCAA takes a majority of ticket revenue in the playoffs, many programs report less than usual to save money (add on the bids programs make to host games and the NCAA makes off like thieves in the night).
ASU is in the same media market as Charlotte.

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Re: CUSA/MWC Merger or Alliance Scenarios.
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2012, 03:20:06 pm »
Also, I have to ask why this thread was necessary?
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Re: CUSA/MWC Merger or Alliance Scenarios.
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2012, 03:46:04 pm »
Also, I have to ask why this thread was necessary?
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Re: CUSA/MWC Merger or Alliance Scenarios.
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2012, 03:52:01 pm »
Also, I have to ask why this thread was necessary?
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Truth. This thread is now about Google StreetView

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